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Beingness in purposeful feedback is. It does not need what you call your faith to be. It just is. It abides beyond your proof, logic, or faith. You can rationalize that however you like, but you cannot make it not so.
You fight your fight and I'll fight me. -- Doug Keershaw.
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Wanted: Someone to wade through the fires of hell to save the ungrateful, the disrespectful, and the despicable. Someone willing to change the diapers of 25-55 year old infant socialists that have been trained to deem it hateful to profile or be judgmental against believers in the most truly horrific. Someone to redeem and show a better way to those who hate the good and love the bad, who would otherwise smile blissfully to bend and be beheaded.
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Idealism too often outruns common sense. Can you talk in unvarnished facts, or must you engage the patinas of PC? If not, I understand why Trump turns you off.
HEALTH CARE: If we had a sensible, assimilated citizenry, I would not be averse to looking at single payer health care. However, there are two big problems: First, Justice Roberts fudged to find authority in the Constitution for such a thing. Second, we do not have a sensible, assimilated citizenry. Rather, we have kiddos run amuck who seem to think everyone has a right to invade the nation and claim various kinds of welfare.
MUSLIMS: Regarding Muslims: As near as I can determine, most want to follow Shariah. Many promote second class citizenship and genital mutilation for women. Many promote death penalties for apostates. As Muslims tend towards a majority, they begin to ban other churches. They begin to rape and assault single women they deem to be immodest.
Why do you suppose Europe is in such turmoil? Muslims do not assimilate. Rather, they breed until they can take over the political system. They wage jihad by taqiyya and breeding. It's the radical branches that are most politically active. Everyone else follows. Meanwhile, Libs buy their bs and help them promote it.
ISIS: You listed some ways you have been told about how ISIS isn't following Islam. What you fail to mention is that ISIS is predominantly Sunni, so it views Shia as close to infidels. And vice versa. They don't view one another as true Muslims, hence no Koranic proscription against killing one another.
Russia and Iran uses the Syrians. The U.S. supposedly used the Syrian rebels. Saudi Arabia and Turkey use ISIS.
TAQIYYA: Apart from a taqiyya front to the common infidels, there is no real unity among Muslims to condemn what is going on. Nor is there unity to condemn Palestinian/Hamas bombers against Israel.
Per Wikipedia:
ISIS/Daesh is a Salafi jihadist militant group that follows a fundamentalist, Wahhabi doctrine of Sunni Islam. (My note: Wahhabism had some of its biggest funders in Saudi Arabia. Now that ISIS threatens Saudi Arabia, they are suddenly antagonistic. Before that, not so much.)
ISIL affiliates now control parts of Libya, Nigeria and Afghanistan and operate in other parts of the world, including North Africa and South Asia.
Some "30 percent of the senior figures" in ISIL's military command are former army and police officers from the disbanded Iraqi security forces, drawn to ISIL by the US De-Ba'athification policy and turn towards Islamism by Sunni following the US invasion of Iraq.
In some countries, such as Pakistan, there are significant minorities of the population with favorable or uncertain views.
TURKEY: Turkey has long been accused by experts, Syrian Kurds, and even U.S. Vice-President Joe Biden of supporting or colluding with ISIL. There is evidence for a degree of collaboration" between the Turkish intelligence services and ISIL. Saudi Arabia has created a Frankenstein's monster over which it is rapidly losing control. Turkey is accussed of assisting ISIL, ranging "from military cooperation and weapons transfers to logistical support, financial assistance, and the provision of medical services."
Flash drives seized during the Sayyaf raid revealed links "so clear" and "undeniable" between Turkey and ISIL "that they could end up having profound policy implications for the relationship between us and Ankara". Turkey is labelled been labelled the "Gateway to Jihad." Private donors within Qatar, sympathetic to the aims of radical groups such as al-Nusra Frong and ISIL, are believed to be channeling their resources to support these organisations. The Saudi state had a decade-long sponsorship of Wahhabism around the world. It appears that the Syrian government has operatives inside ISIL.
WHY NOW: One may reasonably suspect that many Arabic nations are uniting to oust the Iraqi government that was set up by the U.S., as well as to opportune to oust Christians and their churches from the region. If so, it would be beyond silly to assume they would decline to resort to deception and taqiyya. So why, now, after so long, do some seem to unite to castigate ISIS?
Well, for any number of reasons, few having to do with supposed affronts to Islam. Reason: To beguile the U.S. Reason: Out of worry about Trump. Reason: Out of fear of a Frankensteinian Caliphate that may devour its original sponsors. Reason: To generate a refugee crisis to overrun Europe and spread Islam.
As to concern about tenets of Islam being violated -- not so much. Indeed, persons high up in ISIS have been much more studied in Islam and what it does and does not forbid than any dupe of American Prog Profs.
Per Wikipedia:
JIHAD OPTIONS TO INFIDELS: Christians living in areas under ISIL control faced four options: converting to Islam, paying a religious levy or jizya, leaving the "caliphate", or death. "We offer them three choices: Islam; the dhimma contract – involving payment of jizya; if they refuse this they will have nothing but the sword", ISIL said.[475][476] ISIL leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi further noted that Christians who do not agree with those terms must "leave the borders of the Islamic Caliphate" within a specified deadline.
My comment: I much doubt that this proscription violates anything in the Koran, notwithstanding metrosexual handwringing to the contrary about Islam being a "religion of peace." Rather, it appears to belifted straight from the Koran. See e.g. K 9:029.
For example, what sane person believes respected Islamic scholars forbid armed or violent jihad against, say, Israel?
IAE, as and if ISIS continues to succeed, more and more Islamists will legitimize it. As recognized by Ayman S. Ibrahim, the Muslim caliphate and its restoration is a real Muslim commitment, and only needs an agreement among the Muslims in order to reestablish it. See https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2014/10/is-the-muslim-scholars-open-letter-to-isis-really-enough.
Jihadi groups regularly denounce the Saudi rulers of being apostates-not true Muslims-mostly for their close relationship with non-Muslim powers like America; this charge goes all the way back to Osama bin Laden, who, though radicalized by Saudi education, ended up denouncing the monarchy for allowing the U.S. military to be stationed in the Peninsula.
IBRIHIM: Per Raymond Ibrihim, 8-9-16, at http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/how-muslims-justify-killing-other-muslims-in-islams-name?f=troops:
In short, to Sunni jihadis, non-Sunnis are heretics and thus free game. As for fellow Sunnis who get in the way, they can be pronounced apostates and attacked accordingly. As for true Sunni Muslims, the jihadis should try to separate them from the intended infidel target-as happened in Bangladesh and elsewhere-but if they die accidentally, they are martyrs ("and the obligatory jihad should never be abandoned because it creates martyrs").
The argument that jihadi organizations kill fellow Muslims proves nothing. Muslims have been slaughtering Muslims on any number of justifications and rationalizations from the start: So what can the open non-Muslim-such as the Western infidel-expect?
The arc of Islam's war against Christianity is hardly limited to the Middle East. It extends well into therest of the world and Sub-Saharan Africa. See http://www.catholicjournal.us/2014/04/23/war-christians-africa/.
For a list of Koranic passages that justify violence, see http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html.
A SMALL SAMPLING:
[2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you
[3.152]...you slew them by His [Allah's] permission [during a Jihad battle]
[4.89] ...take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back [to their homes], then seize them and kill them wherever you find them
K 8:012 ...make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
[8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to war
K 9:005 ...slay the idolaters wherever you find them...take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush...
K 9:029 Fight those who do not believe in Allah...nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
K 9:036 ..fight the polytheists (Christians) all together as they fight you all together.
[9.38] ...Go forth in Allah's way [to Jihad]... [9.39] If you do not go forth [to go on Jihad], He will chastise you with a painful chastisement and bring in your place a people other than you [to go on Jihad]...
K 9:073 ..strive hard [Jihad] against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them...
K 24:055 Allah has promised to those of you who believe and do good that He will most certainly make them rulers in the earth [as a reward for going on Jihad (see K 024:053)]...
K 63:004 ..they think every cry to be against them. They are the enemy, therefore beware of them; may Allah destroy them, whence are they turned back? [This verse speaks of internecine Jihad against Muslims deemed infidels or "hypocrites."]
BOTTOM LINE: Islamic scholars now denouncing ISIS have as much good faith as the Rinos denouncing Trump. The Islamists just don't want ISIS spoiling their game. The Rinos don't want Trump getting in the way of their people farming. To say I am unimpressed would be a yuge understatement.
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There is good reason to be anti-Islamic. Islam gives that video much material to work with. Do you see hordes of modern Christians behaving that way? Wake up.
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Re: I hate the idea of a country run by a misogynistic, racist, xenophobic, psychopath
Well then, stop carrying water for Elitist Socialists like Bernie and Hillary.
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PM Erdogan: "The Term ‘Moderate Islam’ Is Ugly And Offensive; There Is No Moderate Islam; Islam Is Islam."
Erdogan is helping ISIS against the Kurds, and threatening to release hordes of Muslims into the West. Your defense of him and Islam is juvenile and uninformed. In 2014, Erdogan threatened to “root out” the social media network after wiretapped recordings were leaked that were deemed damaging to the government’s reputation ahead of local elections. Access to Twitter was then restricted. See http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/erdogan-tightens-iron-grip-on-power/.
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Your list makes my case. ISIS sees itself as the caliphate. It deems the failure to swear allegiance to it as being un-islamic. If it acquires more power, other Muslims will come more and more to agree. You are looking for some principle by which to separate jihadis from other Muslims where none exists. That is delusion. Convenient for an Elitist Socialist, but delusion nonetheless.
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Tell me: Are you able to reform the Koran? Is Ayaan Hirsi Ali ridiculous?
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You are now quibbling about "goes up against them." Do you not know that Mohammad fought many aggressive battles? In how many do you suppose he took time to offer options? See https://death2islamofascism.wordpress.com/2010/02/09/muhammads-massacres-and-sex-slaves/
Why are you trying to exhonerate utter barbarity? What is wrong with your soul?
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Re: "all religions are written in parables and figures of speech"
No biblical scholar claims to have the original speech of God. Muslims consider Mohammad to have conveyed God's message through Mohammad's tongue. It is considered that God made the Qur'an Arabic, but man may make it Persian (or other languages). The Koran is taken to be quite literal and specific with regard to numerous injunctions of violence.
As to evil that is conflated with godliness, I am not "looking for" a reason to disregard such evil. I have reason to disregard such evil.
My reason is this: For God to be sensibly relevant to humanity, then each human being needs to be amenable of sensible intuition, empathy, and feedback concerning God. That means the word of God is written in the cosmos, not just in books. For human beings to assimilate and enjoy sensible civilization, they need to be mindful (intuitive and empathetic) of their relation to God and to one another, as perspectives of God. This is alternatively expressable as the Great Commandment and the Golden Rule.
That implicates respect among human beings for the freedom, dignity, work, investment, and property of each of them. That means none should be chattel or slaves to be ruled by elitists. And that means that Elitist Socialists and Islamists who mean to agglomerate rule over every person are "un-good."
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Re: Cruz's role in TPP
Your blinders are showing again. TPP is an attack on U.S. sovereignty, to sell it to extra-national, elitist, cronies. Of course, I get it, that does not bother you. But it probably bothered the people who booed Cruz off the stage for declining to support the only candidate in the race who supports the freedom, dignity, and property of U.S. citizens as individuals, as opposed to the chattel of Elitist Socialists pretending (or duped) to be caring for the little people.
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Bill Maher is an outlier. He, like George Carlin, probably recognizes that political correctness is mainly fascism pretending to have manners.
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Many are simply clueless and in the habit of believing the elitists that now profess from every formal institution. There is little reason to marvel that people born under elitist despotism will tend not to question it. It's much easier to just keep taking the blue pill.
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This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill -- the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill -- you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. -- Morpheus
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There are enough atheists to have brought every formal institution of significance under the NWO rule of treasonous cronies. There is no formal institution that they have not profaned, one way or another.
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Wanted: Someone to wade through the fires of hell to save the ungrateful, the disrespectful, and the despicable. Someone willing to change the diapers of 25-55 year old infant socialists that have been trained to deem it hateful to profile or be judgmental against believers in the most truly horrific. Someone to redeem and show a better way to those who hate the good and love the bad, who would otherwise smile blissfully to bend and be beheaded.
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The political parties are realigning as adult Americans v. childish and grubering Globalists. Autonomous Human Beings v. Automaton Pleasure Widgets.
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The typical Elitist Socialist's faith is in Pagan Gaia, whose priests are knowitall noseinair whineyboys. They are quick to bring out the whine of racist, xenophobe, blah blah. To hear them, they don't hate. They just want to run everyone's life, and they hate when others prefer not to abide by their silly pc or regulations. I detest childish incompetents presuming they or their lying leaders ought to be running my life. They need to go join a mosque or peddle their nonsense elsewhere. Preferably beyond Pluto.
Do you have faith in progressively pursuing better governance under programs laid out by educated elites? If no, then as an atheist, you have no point. If yes, then that is faith, however demented. Nothing in empiricism can prove the moral legitimacy of such faith. No real adult needs to have that explained.
I don't dance and spin. Atheists do act on faith. So the lot of them peddle bs. That is self evident. It takes a dunce educated beyond the power of his intellect not to see it.
What is self evident does not need to be proven, nor can it be proven It just is. That which defines cannot itself be defined. Rather, it is inextricably interwoven in the cosmos, to be empathetically intuited by all who can remove blinders. But you have to remove the blinders you have allowed to be forged for yourself. You either see that, or you don't. Trillions of words could be wasted on it. If atheists' wastage of words does not constitute its own kind of faith, however, demented, then faith has no meaning. I can't fix that for you.
The power of dunces is more in their conditioned feelings than in any intelligent reasoning. I have little time for them. Once I see a person tends to militant atheistic socialistic fascism, I just don't have the patience to try to "save" them. Go and save yourself.
All I ask is that you not oppress or regulate me based on your unintelligible "feelings" about "fairness." If you lack faith in the innate freedom and dignity of individuals apart from the central appratus of knowitall elitists, go social-justice-warrior-jihad to someone else. I don't buy what you're selling. Be gone.
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Push come to shove, I doubt you have much of a clue what you are. Clue: To try to tolerate everything, including that which does not tolerate yourself, is to nullify yourself.
In case you have not noticed, there are millions of people bent on agglomerating power that would not tolerate your position. Examples: Knowitall socialists, jihadi Muslims, militant atheists, treacherous oligarchic crony corporatists, phony priests, phony "moral scientists." If you stand for nothing, you fall for everything.
The test for what I stand for is based on this concern: What system of checks, balances, and moral forums is needed to establish, defend, and nourish decent civilization that will accord freedom, dignity, opportunity, and property to individuals, and that will limit such freedom only where needed to preclude individuals from putting the survival of such system in peril?
That test, in specific applications, is not amenable of scientifically detailed prescription. Rather, it depends on the inspired competency of a liberty-literate people of good will and good faith. But you say you lack faith, so not much is expected from you.
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Elitists who want to rule collectives under force of government hate when individuals prefer to rule themselves under love of spirituality. Like pre-Reformation priests, "scientific" elitists don't like for the lower masses to presume to think (and pray) for themselves. So they insult Christians for their spiritual faith, even as they pretend (falsely) not to indulge any faith (elitist based socialism) of their own.
So why do Elitist Socialists (ES) expressly denounce Christians, but not Muslims? Several reasons. For one, many ES are metrosexualized, androgynous cowards who fear the violent reputation of Muslims. For another, Muslims, like ES, tend to be socialists, but they remain apart and unassimilated -- so they seem to be a less significant threat to ES. But there is a main reason. The main reason is that ES want to ally with Muslims to tear down Christianity. Thereafter, they imagine Marxism or Scientific Socialism, if forceful enough, will have the resources to defeat Islam, if needed.
ES laugh at affronts by Islam against civilized Christians, by telling Christians that their religion is "no better." That is indicative of the moral bankruptcy of ES. ES, instead of lording that their God is greater, lord that their (so called) "scientific moraliy" is better. And they are as willing as Muslims to consign the rest of the world to hellfire to prove it.
ES are morally numbed by their mincing worship of elitist-led hedonism. That is why they are so proud ("gay") and willing to groom, profane, and abuse children. The fact that ES are willing to give Muslims license to impose horror on much of the world, even the West, is indicative of how hollow and uncaring ES, apart from their NWO cause, really are. If convenient to their cause, there is nothing of innocence or Christianity that ES, like most collectivized mobs, would hesitate to degrade or burn. In that, they compete for the apex of evil.