Progs tend not to believe in Jesus or spirituality, but they are quick to create interpretations when it suits their interests. What are Progs' interests? Primarily, they claim to want "fairness and equality," conveniently defined. They do not want any common-sense assimilation of cultural values. To Progs, that would be cultural chauvenism. To avoid that, they want to flood all nations with diverse ghettos of unassimilable groups with grievances. Convenient to Progs' interpretation, Jesus would celebrate multi-culti values that promoted the use of sex and drugs to live in a perpetual high. Progs tend to deem it intolerant to be offended by cultures: that use children and women as sex toys and property; that celebrate and push drugs on children; that promote experiments in anal sex; and that ridicule faith in a spiritual Reconciler. The fake tolerance promoted by Progs amounts to intolerance of any cultural or national assimilation of social values. Progs do not want to invite people to come and reason together in the pursuit of assimilable values and purposes. That discussion is "settled" by economics. Instead, Progs want to divide people, so that "anything goes."
Why do Progs ridicule all attempts to assimilate spiritual, traditional, or even common-sense social values? It's as if their only social value is the preclusion of any assimilation of social values. Progs want multi-national economic concerns to replace traditional and state forms of governance. Why? Who and what interests are behind this? The interests behind this are the purely crass, material interests of crony people-farmers who believe all non-material based social values are not only un-scientific, but chauvenistic, "unfair," and counter to pursuits of human pleasure and happiness. As if using children, women, and laborers as material property were conducive to pleasure and fairness.
Corrupt cronies who are devoid of spiritual or national sentiments or loyalties, whose ultra-dominant interest is to acquire power to rule others, have decided that the world should "be made safe for free trade." All other social and moral values are subservient to their economic interest. They believe economics is "science," but common-sense values for human freedom and dignity are not. Indeed, they believe all domains that promote human freedom and dignity must be infiltrated by diverse ghetto cultures, in order to divide and undermine them. This is so that purely economic interests can be harvested. When Progs talk of "tolerance for multi-culti values," their message makes about as much sense as the fake interpreter for the deaf who appeared at Mandela's funeral services. Prog kids and profs and kid-profs are the useful dolts of crony people-farmers. These people-farmers are the NWO that now runs the mulit-national economic concerns that are replacing cultures, constitutions, and nation states. People of the middle class -- accept your new, deconstructed station as interreplaceable widgets.
Why do Progs ridicule all attempts to assimilate spiritual, traditional, or even common-sense social values? It's as if their only social value is the preclusion of any assimilation of social values. Progs want multi-national economic concerns to replace traditional and state forms of governance. Why? Who and what interests are behind this? The interests behind this are the purely crass, material interests of crony people-farmers who believe all non-material based social values are not only un-scientific, but chauvenistic, "unfair," and counter to pursuits of human pleasure and happiness. As if using children, women, and laborers as material property were conducive to pleasure and fairness.
Corrupt cronies who are devoid of spiritual or national sentiments or loyalties, whose ultra-dominant interest is to acquire power to rule others, have decided that the world should "be made safe for free trade." All other social and moral values are subservient to their economic interest. They believe economics is "science," but common-sense values for human freedom and dignity are not. Indeed, they believe all domains that promote human freedom and dignity must be infiltrated by diverse ghetto cultures, in order to divide and undermine them. This is so that purely economic interests can be harvested. When Progs talk of "tolerance for multi-culti values," their message makes about as much sense as the fake interpreter for the deaf who appeared at Mandela's funeral services. Prog kids and profs and kid-profs are the useful dolts of crony people-farmers. These people-farmers are the NWO that now runs the mulit-national economic concerns that are replacing cultures, constitutions, and nation states. People of the middle class -- accept your new, deconstructed station as interreplaceable widgets.
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"Waddoups concluded that Reynolds has been overtaken by Lawrence and other recent legal developments. While keeping in place for now the Utah law against issuing multiple marriage certificates for polygamous marriage (the second step of the Turley strategy), he invalidated the criminal law against multiple adults cohabiting together as a family, which is the core of the laws against polygamy."
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The point is, we have now arrived at the next bump on the slippery slope. Forward, Progloids. sarc
The only "evidence" of a source of the Big Bang is in its unfolding expression. It makes no more sense to believe in an uncaused first cause than it does to not believe in one. You seem to be purpose driven in making your posts. What is your evidence for why you should care or choose to give expression to any particular purpose over any other? Is it based in logic, materiality, astrology, indigestion, or just random rationalization? Is it based in logic, or just appending the label of logic to a conclusion? Or something more fundamental? I don't claim to know, nor do I believe you or anyone else is condemned for not knowing or not believing. It is just something that I seem presently to feel and perhaps you presently do not. Regardless, I do not believe that faith in a reconciling source of purposefulness "should" be banned from public considerations of purposefulness. I don't quite see the "goodness" in militant atheism.
You can't disprove an immeasurable source of the cosmos by assuming it must not exist unless it is measurable.
You seem to be requiring material based evidence to evidence that which is taken to be non-material. You are trying to prove the non-existence and non- relevance of that which is immaterial by assuming it cannot exist unless it is materially measurable. That is a way of being in the universe. However, it is little more than a "proof by assumption." I doubt you can measure the limit of your identity, but I suspect you believe your identity exists and is relevant. I don't think your faith or lack of faith in the relevance of your identity can be settled by a logical method of proof. Except in habituated delusion or self constraining assumption, I don't think math can prove itself to be the only valid basis for reasoned belief. I am not seeking to replace science with magic. I am seeking to appreciate a coin of being that is two sided, consisting of the measurably signified and the immeasurable signifier.
Dims need to turn this Obamanation into a single-payer system, and quick. That way, no one would pay out of pocket. Everyone would just pay for this Lysenko sized fiasco by paying other taxes. And other taxes would be confabulated so that student loans would be forgiven. Only "the fool-you wealthy" (middle-class making incomes between 5 million and 50 thousand dollars a year) would pay. Everyone else (including students, illegals, welfare folk, typical Obama voters, and the truly wealthy crony class) would simply pass the tax incidence on to the middle class. If need be, the kick-back, wealth-siphoning crony-class of Rino-Dinos will buy enough of Congress to get enough illegal and dead voters to manufacture a majority. Thus, the thinking, producing, middle class ("damn tea partiers," i.e., Americans) will continue to be unrepresented. I don't know how the Progs will get this done, but they will try, because their entire construction of what they call reality depends upon it. Look for lots of ruses. Fake news. Wag the dog. Executive orders. Another economic crash that requires a new stimulus. Lots of public crying and wailing and red guard hate inciting. Or maybe they will hold their collective breaths, turn blue in the face, pass out, and go back to the romper room. If so, for goodness sakes, ground them for 20 years!
I suspect mathematics is part religion and part receding science. On the science side, I doubt we will ever get to the end of discovering all equations that describe all possible intricacies of mathematical relationships. Rather, we will hypothesize, test, falsify, restate, and then move on ... in attempts to describe each next or receding relationship.
Perhaps you mean to state a tautology, that: What measurably is, is measurable. However, that would often entail an assumption that what is ... is entirely reducible to the mathematically measurable material. As if math were self-firing and the cosmos were self-starting -- irrespective of entailing a meta-mathematician. That would seem to entail a rather unscientific leap of faith. IOW, there may be more to what is than that which measurably is. That would seem to entail a meta-math and/or meta mathematician. And how we relate to that possibility would seem to entail a religious like faith.
IMHO: Mathematics unfolds in part as religion and in part as receding science. It may be active, and it may be dead set and absolute. I doubt we can know.
The rainbow does not exist as a thing in itself, yet it's appearance is recedingly renormalized to every perspective that experiences it. Special Relativity seems to have to do with how experiences of space are stretched in order to renormalize perspectives of experience. General relativity seems to have to do with how experiences of space-time are stretched in order to renormalize perspectives of experience. It seems that every physical world that avails a shared cone of experience will require re-normalizing limits that cannot be exceeded by its experiencers. Still, there may be ways to create and design cones of experience within cones of experience, receding towards infinity.
Something about our approach seems off. Can even God know whether God has free will? What about "free won't"? Whether or not "we" have free will, some aspect about our beingness seems not to be pre-determined. Much seems to be determined, but determined contemporaneous with unfolding feedback and reconciliation to our context. That is, we participate with our environment in affecting how events unfold. Our observations and apprehensions seem to affect the unfolding of matter, even though no after the fact measurement can prove it. That is, there is no way to take a measurement that is "free" of all preset constraints. Our "freedom" is in degrees within unfolding parameters. If we lose all respect for our place of responsible participation, we will reduce our moral value to something akin to robotics. Then, all talk of constitutional rights and liberties may as well be reduced to so much noise. The "libertarian" ideal would reduce to a punchline to a cosmic joke.
I suspect our fixation on engineering and breaking everything down into ultimate component particles contributes to moral confusion. But no thing exists as a thing in itself, apart from a relationship to an organism, organization, environment, and context of reconciling feedback. I suspect ultimate particles are more like illusions, being derivatives of a meta mathematician who continuously renormalizes our perspectives of interfunctioning form-ulas.
The organization of dreams may avail a hint. Can dreams really be entirely reduced to individual bits of electrically determined synaptic connections? Or is each part of a dream part of an organized apprehension, such that a quality of appreciation focused from the perspective of the dream-story itself affects the unfolding of the synaptic connections? As to our waking moments, are those simply the reconciled, re-normalized effects of a dream architecture that we share with other perspectives? Sort of reminds me of a South Parks representation of an incipient representation within an Inception within the Matrix.
Prospero:
Our revels now are ended. These our actors, As I foretold you, were all spirits, and Are melted into air, into thin air: And like the baseless fabric of this vision, The cloud-capp'd tow'rs, the gorgeous palaces, The solemn temples, the great globe itself, Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve, And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff As dreams are made on; and our little life Is rounded with a sleep.
The Tempest Act 4, scene 1, 148–158 - See more at: http://www.enotes.com/shakespe...
Socialism reliably fails when it is used to justify putting power in the hands of cronies in ways that resist accountability to any reason-based marketplace. Norway is falling to political correctness. China is based more on princeling-crony-corporatism. Socialism is hollowing out the USA, sending our industries overseas while importing serfs to fill our hospital emergency rooms.
I am well aware that I am too "ontologically unique" and too much a generalist to be much good at any particular thing. That is to say, I am a lawyer ... who has read enough to have not much respect for the law. Until I can retire, I will content myself to shoot at such bad quackers as need to be shot at.
I am tired of big business economists being willing to sell out the American Ideal for a mess of pottage. There is no such thing as a free lunch. There is no such thing as free trade with despotic nations whose despots use kickbacks to keep ropes through the camel noses of our Rino politicians.
People can become institutionalized, to such a point that they welcome being tended by a warden or zoo keeper. And boy are institutions coming into their own. It's getting so most people cannot conceive of living without every action being processed through a consortium of institutions. This is how we get two classes. Thus we get a class of people who want to be farmed and a class of people who want to farm them. As to a middle class that just wants to farm its own garden, not so much. The longer the classes that want to institutionalize everything and everybody remain in essentially uncontested power, the more powerful and mind numbing their institutions will become. They think it's crazy not to want to be institutionalized. To them, Tea Partiers are mad mavericks, bucking the herd, while it's safe to let lobotomized Progs hang out under overpasses and occupying Wall Street.
Obama is about to cry because he thinks most people now hate him. As to the producers who have supported America and all real progress, he and his fellow metrosexuals have hated all of them from the time his commie mommie first began cooing to him. Don't cry for me, Obargentina.
Boehner has declared war on the Tea Party. The true sentiments of the Establishment of Rinos and Dinos has been revealed! The Rino plea is that we save Rino political butts, because they are the lesser of evils. No, they are not. They are the junior partners of evil. Why should we want to help continue to establish a crony establishment that is bent on complete subjugation of the thinking middle class of decent folk? The only way to ignite a viable third party is to start poking a finger in the cyclops eye of the unified Establishment. Poke it every day for as many days as it takes to get the people to rally to a party that actually would represent decent, hard working, patriotic Americans, who value America over using unfair trade as a means to enrich crony Muslim despots abusing cheap, mind-enslaved labor.
Msm will help discredit the "lie-therism" movement. All good Progs know, it wasn't a lie. It was a "noble nuance." Only Conservatives lie. Progs nuance. Verb: Nuance -- To keep Cool Brights informed with De-bonic Shorthand, i.e., political rapspeak for those with rap sheets.
Regimes are hollowing out people in much the same way they hollow out nations. New economic thinking may soon model people much as widget dolls. A person can be compared to an avatar for the spirit. A free person avails a full range of expression of spirit. An un-free person is like a hollowed out spirit, who is allowed to give expression only to the opinions that are approved by those who take his mind and body into their possession. A person who hollows out the spirit of others is like an evil spirit. In 1939 Germany, Jews were reduced to un-free, haunted spirits. Their right to expression was hollowed out. Their bodies were boarded on trains bound to the end of humanity. Their homes were possessed by Nazis. In 2013, the minds and opinions of thinking people of the West are being possesssed and taken over by neo-Nazi collectivizing agents of the New Economic Cronydom. In America, that Cronydom is represented by a RinoDino Alliance. Thinking people have opinions about how to defend against a recurrence of totalitarian mind control. However, they are being shown that the expression of such opinions is punished. Expressing such opinions is not the path of advancement in academia, the entertainment industry, government bureaucracy, or most main stream media. Ask Juan Williams. Ridiculing such opinions is the surer path. Ask Sarah Palin. Punishing such opinions is becoming the norm. Ask conservative college professors. Denying political representation for such opinions is the reality. Ask the Tea Party whether they are given more than lip service by the Establishment. The New Economic Cronydom is becoming an entity unto itself -- the New Fed Reich. It stands for Total Currency Manipulation, Divisive Destruction of Common Decency, and Mind Possession. Resisting the New Reich is dangerous. Ask the IRS. Except by ever more totalitarian insults to personhood, this cannot stand. If enough people see what is happening in time, it will not stand. The later people see it, the bloodier the inevitable revulsion.
Dims blame Republicans for 1950's blacklisting of Hollywood actors for being communists. Yet, Universities all but blacklist profs for being conservatives. Republicans were trying to defend against evil. Dims promote it. You want blacklists? It could be interesting were James O'Keefe to do a sting against colleges that discriminate against hiring or promoting people on account of their political orientations. He could disguise himself as a scientist seeking funding to do a social study on careers in academia.
There is an accelerating push that is rampant in the land to make governance under nation states and constitutions irrelevant in the face of multi-national organizations. It may well be that there will be no crash when the tipping point is reached. Just millions of whimpers. To prevent whimpering out, foresight and assimilaton to the just and the right are required. The lie that is being forced around the world is that crony economics is objective science. In the service of that lie, all other principles are being rationalized as secondary. Including the so-called "nuclear option" to the fillibuster. Behind the scenes, the governing principle is the push towards global economics, in replacement of all local political values.
Re: "Maybe faith in ourselves?"
This gets closer, I think, to a common nub. Not just faith in "myself," but in "ourselves." And In All That Entails. For example, I cannot objectively know whether you are a real person or a Turing Machine. I can apply common sense and then take a faith-based step. And when I in faith accept your personhood, I can empathetically relate. Not just for my own interests, but for my faith interest in you and other persons. I can invest morally in the freedom and dignity of each person within a community of persons. I can in faith consider such investment to be for a higher good. A good worth coming together to reason about. Which is an important function for any forum (or church) that invites people to come together in good faith in order, in good and charitable will, to seek to satisfy common interests. This implicates that there are common intersts that are "good" to pursue, i.e., a Source. But we do not mathematically or empirically prove by some litmus test that such interests are scientifically good. Still, somehow, while assuming and believing such goods do exist, however immeasurable their proof may be, we do tend to arrive at considering some of them as being "good." I would consider that process of encouraging a quality of subjective consensus to be a spiritual process --- not an entirely objective, empirical, logical, mathematical, or material process. I don't quite see the principled point in allowing a process among Progs (for mixing values with legislation in secular forums), while banning such a process among Conservatives (as if it constituted some kind of prohibited mixing of church and state only when practiced by Conservatives). As to skepticism being necessary about priests and prophets claiming to be special and sole messengers and prophets for God, I agree. But I also think that inculcating a habit of coming together in respect of an inviting Source of potential reconciliation towards goodness is important. When approached in an attitude of appropriate respect, such coming together can inspire us to give meaningful expression to "the better angels" of our nature. To me, that which inspires people to join hands together in good will and good faith is "the hand of God."
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