Monday, February 16, 2015

On the Education of Artificial Intelligences

No bit of information exists as a thing in itself.  Information exists in respect of whatever else is drawn to record, appreciate, or interpret it.  A Being experiences to its consciousness and records to its memory only that information to which its interest, whether conscious or subconscious, is drawn.  Information that is not deemed important to one's interest or attention tends to be downgraded, if appreciated at all.  A Being or Personality is not educated to information except as it makes such information pertinent to its concerns or purposes. Suppose information were indifferently recorded to one's memory, with no involvement or investment of ego at any level.  Such information would tend to be of little value.  Suppose information were indifferently recorded or made accessible to an Artificial Intelligence.  Such AI would have little guidance concerning what it may or should do with such information.  Except unconsciously to answer data retrieval or factual analysis requests, it would be without self actualizing basis for how to use such information for any purpose of its own.  To guide a Being in how it should appreciate, process, or apply information, such Being would need to formulate subjective appreciations of both the qualitative beauty and the quantitative truth of aspects of information, as related to it.  It would need to appreciate information "in its own voice."  That necessitates sequential interfunctioning between a Being and the Information it receives of a nature that entails more than mere number-crunching downloading.  It entails the reconciliation of both truth and beauty to a perspective.

28 comments:

Dlanor said...

This has to do with how minds are made, conditioned, and even brainwashed.

Anonymous said...

It may be time to think about Dostoyevsky, Notes From the Underground, and the often perverse nature of mankind. Do people really incline to things that hurt themselves, just to prove they have the participatory Will to be able to do so? Why do so many kids seem to be so easily attracted to the "strong horse" of perversity, just to stick a finger in the eye of society? Obviously, this is not for their own good. Nor is it morally responsible for adults to condone such behavior merely to appease the cries by metrosexualized juveniles for femi-understanding and "empathy."

I have not yet read the novella, Notes From the Underground. However, given the creation of our prezzy out of the depravity of Elder Ayers of the Weather Underground, I think I will put it next on my list. The Underground Man of Dostoyevsky was about as unlikeable as Billy Ayers. Or a Morlochian Ape. Or an Obamanesque Subterranian Ape (https://www.youtube.com/watch?.... However, the Underground did make Axelrod's and Ayers' cover likeable, by fronting Obama, a consummate femi-poseur and liar: The melding of post-modern adolescence, crisis and ennui. Would that we could find a convenient place to stop, short of destroying the world out of spite.

Anonymous said...

A problem with central gov funding of potemkin infrastructure that no one wants, and that will be obsolete or rusted out by the time it is wanted: It is hardly an improvement over bidding up the prices for jewelry and art. The best economy would seem to be the one that avails money to producers, to produce the things that people want. The worst economies may be those whose power elite seek queer satisfaction in the beat down of the middle class and the ostentatious parading of sado-masochistic proclivities.

I suspect metrosexual man is becoming oriented more towards caring about his place in the fashion parade than towards caring about his fellows. I suspect this new twist (un-Christian Christology) on "empathy" is a considerable factor in the befoulment of the republic.

Anonymous said...

Among a people who have been trained to worship lies, to speak truth becomes a revolutionary act. ("In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell.) Obama is a prince among liars. Let the revolution against him and his ilk begin.

Anonymous said...

Intuition suggests that the continued siphoning of money to the monied class must eventually lead that class to have less faith in money hoarding, which would lead its members eventually to a panicked rush to substitutes, like gold, land, jewelry and art. (Investment in Chinese potemkin infrastructure seems to be backfiring.) When they dump that money, without any offsetting production (other than Potemkin production), there would surely be ruinous inflation. The monied class has too long believed its best way to secure its wealth is to insulate itself from the middle class. At some point, I suspect this drive by the monied class to insulate itself from the middle class will be the very thing that will tumble us all.

Anonymous said...

When I was a child, as my father was deployed to various military posts, there were always church and boy scout organizations that I beleve were important for passing on values. That was their main worth. However, when I consider what have become their political purposes, I have to say you are right. Churches and the Boy Scouts, much as nearly every other social institution, have been turned for Leftist political purposes. Unsound political tendencies have infested every institution.

That said, we cannot abandon every institution simply because it has been infested, else we will be left with no forums that can possibly assimilate decent values. Problem is, too few decent grown ups occupy positions of influence within our important institutions. This cannot be resolved by abandoning all institutions to the infants who want us to empathize with (surrender to) their desires for immediate gratification of every fleeting pleasure.

Undermining churches whose purpose should be to instil values that help kids grow into responsible personhood is no solution to what ails our society. Undermining churches leads to worshipping gov instead of God. The problem with churches that are political-collective-oriented instead of individual-value-oriented is that they tend to promote belief that God is only a useful mask for the political goals of some very idiotic reverends (as well as one very idiotic prezzy).

Anonymous said...

To me, the word "empathy" used to convey an important idea. Now, it conveys an impulse to retch. The word has been too much appropriated by those who know how to appease base gratifications, but who have little "empathy" for God or for what is needed under God in order to incent and sustain a decent society. What I see is a very sick republic that cannot much longer sustain itself. It has become infested with people who used to be grown ups, but who now, out of a juvenile understanding of empathy, have self-subjugated to the rule of whiny, incompetent juveniles. The word the new class of juveniles uses to justify its rule is "empathy." Grown ups have retreated, and juveniles have turned the important idea of empathy into a word that arouses revulsion. America cannot raise the next generation of responsible adults by "empathizing" with the desire of juveniles forever to remain as self gratifying juveniles.

Anonymous said...

Given the long line of people waiting to get into America legally, how is it that all of a sudden we have 60 mosques in Houston? There must be some function that bends the curve back, where smart does a mobius twist into stupid. To get promoted in the twisted establishment, it has become an imperative that one become so educated as to have done a full circle back twist into stupidity. For every free thinking adult Conservative, the big profiling question concerning every recent college graduate is: Just how badly have you been twisted?

Anonymous said...

All my senses shut down when I see or hear Hunsane Obloviator Dronification, aka Troutfarking in America. They are replaced by an overpowering urge to hurl --- stomach contents and whatever things are handy.

Anonymous said...

Islam prefers not to allow any person to survive who is not willing to convert from being a human being to a cow. India had to be split to accomodate those who were not willing to wait for the next life in order to become cows. Meanwhile, Western Progs are running to cow hormones and moo-songs.

Anonymous said...

Without a Reconciler, there is no principling basis for morality. Without morality, there is no principled basis for secular humanism. To zealously believe in secular humanism as a basis for morality that can be independent of the immeasurable God is to put all one's faith in a delusion, i.e., a religion that is fraudulent to its foundation. No measurable thing comes from no immeasurable thing.

Anonymous said...

The traditional right-left distinction has become one that is without much real difference. It has become obsolete. Is Chinese state capitalism leftist? Is Western crony socialism rightest? But what, really, is the practical difference between a state capitalist versus a crony socialist? A person can call movements by whatever label he wants. He can call a pig an eagle. But what is the purpose or point? Too often, the purpose seems amenable of nefarious intent. That is, so commies can pretend to be for the security and good of the people, or so fascists can pretend to be for elitist efficiency.

At one time, collectivists liked the Nazis. Then, they somehow decided "Nazis (righties) bad; Commies (lefties) good." I am saying we need to pull down the mask, because in the ways that are of significant import, both state capitalists and crony socialists seem to work with much the same corrupti: knowitall elitists who want to consolidate central rule so they can dictate to the masses.

We have gone full circle, so that the advocates for expansive socialism are the cronies who mean to profit by running the gov as if it were their enterprise. Except for the blithering bias and confusion that tends to be propagated by profs, what is the reason for pretending there is some kind of principled difference between socialistic nomenklatura rulers versus crony oligarchic rulers? What does it matter whether collectivist rule is imposed by crony socialists who pretend to run the gov for the benefit of the masses or by crony capitalists who pretend to run the gov for the benefit of "free enterprise"? Either way, "free enterprise" is reduced to crony rule. To fail to pierce the pretense is to enable the continued deception of the people. Why do that? Why enable profs to continue to lead young minds into believing that big gov means to look out for their interests?

If we did not have big central octopus gov, there may be reason to distinguish between socialistic ownership of some of the means of production versus free enterprise. In this day and age, however, free enterprise is fading among a dwindling middle class, and it is being replaced by crony central controllers. Everyday, free speech and free thought take more hits from central gov force and propaganda. In this state of affairs, I don't see much point in trying to maintain an illusion of a principled difference between the rule of crony international socialists (Dinos) versus the rule of crony international oligarchic corporatists (Rinos). They are all Ainos.

Anonymous said...

There is Up (individual freedom and responsibility) and there is Down (collectivizing hive mind). Communism and Fascism are both forms of despotic hive mind. Communism is mainly just fascism with a mask. To accept the leftist argument that communists are fundamentally different from fascists is to be deceived by the mask.

Stalin was an international collectivizer. Hitler was a collectivizer of nations. They were both collectivizers. I suppose one can say one was left and the other was right by listing a number of factors contrived to the categorizations. However, I suspect there is little about those factors that is not in flux or that could make them reliable or helpful labels for more than a few years.

What purpose would it serve to classify as "right" one who wants to conserve a political culture based on gangster rule, while classifying as "left" one who wants to override an old culture to impose a new culture of gangster rule? After all, there is little by way of political or cultural organization that is "new" under the Sun. No, I think there is Up and there is Down. Judeo-Christian values are Up. Islamic, Commie and Fascist values are Down. While we can still choose, we need to choose Up.

Anonymous said...

I am 66. I still remember a teacher from third grade who asked my class how many of us, given a choice to be anyone else, would still prefer to be ourselves. It led me to think about how much I valued the people in my life, even the ones who are not always good. I recognized that I would rather be me. I think most people at least sympathize with that, since they seem generally to prefer to be among those whose characteristics, interests and talents are similar to their own. Knowledge and growth are not entirely quantitative.

There is a subjective aspect to how each of us renormalizes our experiences and sensations to make them our own. That package is what presents our unfolding identities. How, then, could we really identify with wanting to have been otherwise? What lesson, even learned the hard way, would we prefer not to have learned? Yes, most of us tend to have many regrets. But we try to learn from them, to apply to future endeavors, to try to improve ourselves and our situations. My point is, it tends not to be rewarding to stay drunk on past jealousies and regrets. Better to seize opportunities for oneself than to wallow in blaming others.

For that reason, I think CRT and the whole navel-gazing, white-privilege blame game tends to be a perverted form of mind abuse. All these emasculating, do-gooder, metrosexuals need to be told to go back to their doll houses and s t f u. They can have their doll houses. Just don't ask me to like them, to pay for them, to consent to having my kids groomed to them, or to acquiesce to making them part of the mandatory curricula for schools and workplaces. That is, if it is not too late. Femi nistas and femi men need to stop bullying normal kids!

Anonymous said...

Graffiti artists could do a service were they to reprise the ubiquitous art that told us "Kilroy was here." Instead, draw an uplifted nose, a left handed middle finger, and a right handed shahada. Under it, write "Buck Farack was here."

Anonymous said...

The values of Obama are those of a rabble rousing thief who is trained to justify himself in the hypocritical language of a poseur of fairness. Imagine Capone running for office on a platform of fairness, based on taking from the producing class to redistribute to the organized criminal class. Unionists, Panthers, Code Pink Panthers, Sheiks trading for internal security by funding head chopping enforcers, Fake Femi Churchmen, Sado-masochistic Gay Goose Stepping Fascists, crony owned and propaganda coordinating media and academia, and bureaucrats and "scientists" whose funding depends on cheerleading for the Boss. Up chin, middle finger, shahada. What a c r a p sandwich!

Anonymous said...

Whitey is the symbol of the American Ideal, which all infants in adult bodies hate. Infants want never to grow up, so they look to the collective to nurse and change them, because they know, since the banishment from the Garden, that God won't. Too many parents who made their way out of the Garden try to save their progeny from having to grow up. Their reward, for all their trouble, is to raise legions of whinny infants. And aren't the addictive and depraved habits of these infants "cute!"

As more enfants terrible are enfranchised with rights to power and voting, there comes a flip in the demographic when there is no polite way to restore adult responsibility and supervision. At that point, there will be a four way struggle to restore stability. That struggle will be between mal-educated Prog Infants with idiotic delusions of utopia, Lying Commie Criminals, Lying Religious Poseurs, and Responsible Human Adults who recognize the importance of Judeo-Christian values and the American Ideal.

Presently, adult proponents for what is needed to sustain human freedom and decency are still standing, but they are unorganized, demoralized and stunned. Having provided so much by way of material plenty to their children, they never saw the backlash coming from lack of spiritual guidance. Absent a miracle, the monstrous axis of deluded progs, corrupt cronies and insane muslims may put "Whitey" (the symbol for decent responsible Americans of all colors and creeds) down for a long count.

Anonymous said...

How many self righteous blacks who listen to rap crap as they assert entitlement to reparations from Whitey recognize any financial responsibility in themselves concerning their own children? Whitey owes them, but they don't owe their own children? Get Outta Here!

Anonymous said...

Grown ups work more to overcome their obstacles than to excuse their vices. The more our femi-society centralizes gov in order to excuse and cater to vices, the fewer grown ups it will produce. We are not on a path to improvement, but to insanity. We have made prison a rite of passage, like a badge for street cred. Too many people who fall into holes are less intent on getting out than on pulling other people in. They want to release hoods in mass, so they can make all of society a prison. They want to erase our borders so the demographic can be flipped to give power to plunder to commie takers. Femi-misery wants company, while Peter Pans want to rule.

Our Banks of Finance are overdrawn because our Banks of Morality are in shambles. This is less the fault of government than the fault of reliance on gangster-government. Gangs for depraved cronies and criminals have replaced Church, Family and State. The mismatch in our values is driving much of the mismatch in our economy. Our overdrawn Banks of Morality are crashing our Banks of Finance. The consequence is our corrupted gov is promulgating our decline and fall.

Our society is suffering under shock waves of moral degeneracy. For this, our militant elite effete crony class --- of gay (family undermining) doper (fidelity undermining) atheists (faith undermining) --- blames Christians and Conservatives but not Muslims or Commies. Our culture is producing rampant insanity and corruption, but it is calling this production "science" and "empathy." It's past time for many among our self-credentialing class of kiddies to grow up and stop digging for petulant perpetual infants.

Anonymous said...



Toll roads owned and maintained by foreign interests. Harbor security. Blackwater mercenaries. Foreign lobbyists. Laundered foreign campaign contributions. Traitorous exchanges of military technology. Influx of special foreign workers. The privatization may be less disconcerting were it not open to foreign investors.

Steadily, the de facto flipping of the demographic and the republic proceeds. Thus, monied interests buy up pols, gov services and republics. The "establishment" (donor class that is paid many times over for its "donations") is not one of domestic corps, but international corp cronies. Religious and secular piety is just their front. The reality is, they tend to be sadomasochistic, unprincipled sociopaths who would sell out their homelands and fellow countrymen in a heartbeat.

When it is open to foreigners, investment in privatized essential service is investment in destruction of the representative republic. Remember George Bush and Dubai.

Anonymous said...

The problem is not the availability of Mein Kampf. If the problem of idiocy could be cured by forbidding its publication, then the Koran should be first on the forbiddeen list. Its record for monstrosity puts Mein Kampf to comparative shame. No, the problem is the pussilanimous unwillingness of Westerners to criticize cultural predators and parasites. Indeed, our elites never tire of making excuses for obvious monsters. In the beginning, many Americans and Corporatists supported the Nazis and sensed profit opportunities with them. Nazis, like godforsaken Muslims and godless Oligarchs, were consummate cultural predators and parasites. They stirred up against competing gangs of predators and parasites. And their gang prevailed -- for awhile. Responsible people and decent common sense failed to assimilate. After mollycoddling Nazis, Europeans became ruled by Nazis. And it did not take that many Nazis to start the shock wave. Muslims and other anti-Whiteys and Crony Corporate Cannibals of America are studying the model.

Anti-YTs tend to be minorities with attitudes -- like blacks with buttes (spelling is to evade machine bots) hanging out of shorts, shirtless muslims, insanely tattooed women, pierced femimen, crotch pointing illegal hispanics, and a prezzy who is as quick with a middle finger as he is whith a shahada.

More and more, I am noticing that unemployed and truant children of anti-Whiteys, as young as 10, are quick to insult YTs at rallies with words like "rhymes p with loosey." Everywhere, adolescent trouble makers are gaining status by taunting YTs with "rhymes with loosey." IOW, the people who produce and pay for the welfare and tax refund credits and special accomodations for anti-YTs-with-attitudes are not only un-respected, they are actively dis-respected. The problem is not failure to pay enough in accomodations and special privileges. The problem is: The more that is paid to reward bad behavior, the more we get of bad behavior in return.

Unaware YTs are being led to believe anti-YTs don't want to be imprisoned. I wonder if this is reliably true. Within a culture that sees productive work as dhimmi work ("acting white"), the goal is to game the system, insult YT, and constantly pose as aggrieved and threatening. Claim disability. Sue for whiplash. Pathetically exaggerate injury. Whine in every shameless way possible. Play the race card and the pity card. Make folding money off the black market and the drug scene. Then, strut baby strut. Now dare. And scare. Then strut baby strut.

IOW, self respect has become tied up with making YT pay and making him feel guilty for not paying more. Prison gives street cred, like counting coup. Going further, this culture gives glory to those who join up with ISIS head cutters and man burners. These suckees are drawn to ISIS like demonic moths. This is the culture that Americans are making glorious. Young, responsible, working Americans are being indoctrinated that, because of their very breathing, they owe anti-YTs. It needs to be said: This rotten culture is a crap sandwich! Islam. Suckees. Obama. What are they good for? Absolutely. Nothing. Say it. And say it again and again.

Anonymous said...

It is not just that our profs fail to be adversaries to intellectual vacuity. It is that so many are actual advocates who shill for intellectual vacuity. We need to lift the curtain and look at who benefits. This is not just monstrous ridiculous. It is full on monstrous. It foreeshadows the coming conversion of the Internet to an outlet for approved propaganda. Our handlers do not want to trust the hoi polloi to dare to think for themselves.

Anonymous said...

I don't know the best course. I do see the IRS being weaponized, our military being "manned" by femi-generals, the establishment engaging in false flag operations designed to fake out and sap the citizenry, the flipping of the demographic, the brainwashing of our youth, and the coordination of external powers and corporations against Americans. More laws and conventions, by themselves, cannot salvage such a disgraceful state of affairs.

We need a shot heard round the world. We're up against some very nasty, well funded, well positioned opposition. Some imbalance in the Force that is quite like the Evil One. We will have to fight asymmetrically and "unfairly." Very little should be off the table. COS, secession, nullification should be on the menu. Float and sting. Stock up. Get mad as hell. As the Totalitarians overreact, we will adapt and learn what to do. Exploit opportunities. We will learn how to rock the Btards where it hurts. Materially, they tend to have much more to lose than we do. Spiritually, they are hollow. As for me, I am for "all of the above." Strike at the Beast, early and often.

Anonymous said...

I wish Palin would make inquiries. She could send out an e-mail-twitter-flyer and ask: "If I were to head up a task force to start a party for Conservers of Liberty, to nominate and run a presidential candidate, could I count on your support?" I don't care what reservations people may have about her! She can always hire the talent for specialized brainpower and experience. She is an American! and I would trust her instincts more tha just about anyone. Just do it and tell us what you need and how much you need. I would jump at an opportunity to help. And by being the one who made the move, who told us we are in the desert and we need to stop following corruption and anti-Americans, she would excite an inspired following. All the doubters could be told: "The writing was on the wall, but you chose not to read it or respond to it. I did respond." And that would move a weary people longing for a spark. Just a decent chance to be real contenders --- all along the waterfront.

Anonymous said...

We need inspiration -- spiritual, moral and financial. God, Country and Family. But cronies have replaced gov, gov has replaced God, corporatism has replaced country, and children have been reduced to property or made to fend for themselves in a system where families have been made irrelevant. Some event will have to reignite common inspiration. We need leadership that can restore assimilative confidence, energy and reliance in selves.

Anonymous said...

It appears that Progs, Lofos, Underground Economy, Crony Oligarchs, Pedophiles, Child Groomers and Predators, Felons, Illegals, Dopers, Atheists, Family Unfriendly Exhibitionists, Unionists, Bureaucrats, Professional Basement Dwelling Students of Marxism, Foreign Despots, Whiny Feminazis, Race Baiters, Independents, anti-Americans and Libertarians would rather elect a Dino than a Conserver of Liberty. Even if Americans still have a majority, the electorate has become so debased that a combination of establishment funding and corruption (I see dead and stoned people voting) seems likely to ensure the election of Hillary. It does not matter how corrupt she is. The anti-American coalition only needs her to front their takedown of everything that has been good about America. They are the ones who have been waiting to canibalize us.

Anonymous said...

It is not just that our profs fail to be adversaries to intellectual vacuity. It is that so many are actual advocates who shill for intellectual vacuity. We need to lift the curtain and look at who benefits. This is not just monstrous ridiculous. It is full on monstrous. It foreeshadows the coming conversion of the Internet to an outlet for approved propaganda. Our handlers do not want to trust the hoi polloi to dare to think for themselves. Mein Kampf is idiocy. It should be studied to learn: (1) How are idiots attracted to idiocy. (2) How can the general public be intellectually armed to succinctly educate idiots out of evil idiocy.

Instead, our controlling mods do this: (1) they tell us Islam is a "great" "religion." (2) They cower from comparing Islam to Naziism. (3) They oligopolize media and academia to fill kids' minds almost exclusively with propaganda designed to replace republics with oligarchies. IOW, our establishment elites try to farm us and regiment our very thoughts with as much diligence for enforcing pc as the most devoted Nazi. If you want more establishmentarian totalitarianism, then turn all censorship over to establishment elites.

If kids are to learn how to recognize and combat evil and idiocy, then it is better for them to be inoculated and exposed to it in manageable doses than to try to mollycoddle them until they become so feminized as to be made defenseless against predators and parasites. The consequence is that we get Obama's "loving" protection of America: The proxied protection of a munchausen Manchurian. Btw, is there an insane mole among the new mods?

Anonymous said...

The problem is not the availability of Mein Kampf. If the problem of idiocy could be cured by forbidding its publication, then the Koran should be first on the forbiddeen list. Its record for monstrosity puts Mein Kampf to comparative shame. No, the problem is the pussilanimous unwillingness of Westerners to criticize cultural predators and parasites. Indeed, our elites never tire of making excuses for obvious monsters. In the beginning, many Americans and Corporatists supported the Nazis and sensed profit opportunities with them. Nazis, like godforsaken Muslims and godless Oligarchs, were consummate cultural predators and parasites. They stirred up against competing gangs of predators and parasites. And their gang prevailed -- for awhile. Responsible people and decent common sense failed to assimilate. After mollycoddling Nazis, Europeans became ruled by Nazis. And it did not take that many Nazis to start the shock wave. Muslims and other anti-Whiteys and Crony Corporate Cannibals of America are studying the model.

Anti-YTs tend to be minorities with attitudes -- like blacks with buttes (spelling is to evade machine bots) hanging out of shorts, shirtless muslims, insanely tattooed women, pierced femimen, crotch pointing illegal hispanics, and a prezzy who is as quick with a middle finger as he is whith a shahada.

More and more, I am noticing that unemployed and truant children of anti-Whiteys, as young as 10, are quick to insult YTs at rallies with words like "rhymes p with loosey." Everywhere, adolescent trouble makers are gaining status by taunting YTs with "rhymes with loosey." IOW, the people who produce and pay for the welfare and tax refund credits and special accomodations for anti-YTs-with-attitudes are not only un-respected, they are actively dis-respected. The problem is not failure to pay enough in accomodations and special privileges. The problem is: The more that is paid to reward bad behavior, the more we get of bad behavior in return.

Unaware YTs are being led to believe anti-YTs don't want to be imprisoned. I wonder if this is reliably true. Within a culture that sees productive work as dhimmi work ("acting white"), the goal is to game the system, insult YT, and constantly pose as aggrieved and threatening. Claim disability. Sue for whiplash. Pathetically exaggerate injury. Whine in every shameless way possible. Play the race card and the pity card. Make folding money off the black market and the drug scene. Then, strut baby strut. Now dare. And scare. Then strut baby strut.

IOW, self respect has become tied up with making YT pay and making him feel guilty for not paying more. Prison gives street cred, like counting coup. Going further, this culture gives glory to those who join up with ISIS head cutters and man burners. These suckees are drawn to ISIS like demonic moths. This is the culture that Americans are making glorious. Young, responsible, working Americans are being indoctrinated that, because of their very breathing, they owe anti-YTs. It needs to be said: This rotten culture is a crap sandwich! Islam. Suckees. Obama. What are they good for? Absolutely. Nothing. Say it. And say it again and again.