Wednesday, April 22, 2015

Relationship Between Fields Of Continuity versus Discreteness


CONTINUITIES: There seems to abide no favored or standard unit of time or space that is simultaneously and equally applicable in common to all loci throughout the apparent and sensible cosmos. Rather, to be rational, every local measurement of mass, charge, vector, and wave function must be renormalized to be in reference to its local frame of reference. Only in that way does there abide a standard for CONTINUOUSLY renormalizing relations. Only in that respect does there abide a renormalizing-math standard that can be applied to every locus of continuity in space-time.

DISCRETES: As to a standard for renormalizing DISCRETE and digitizing relations among particles at the leaping quanta level, whatever the explanation of its system: No such math-based standard seems to abide, except based in statistical randomness concerning degrees of freedom and kinds of exchanges.

RECONCILIATION OF SUMS: A math-sum of manifestations of DISCRETES among locally vectored centers of quantum fields is always reconciled to a math-sum of manifestations of CONTINUOSITIES among locally centered vectors of electro-magnetic-gravitational fields.

MASS: The math-value for every selectively measured and manifested particle-field seems to express Mass when it is simultaneously vectored in respect of more than one kind of quanta that is other than the quanta correlates (photons and gravitons) for the electro-magnetic-gravitational field.

UNITY OF ELECTRO-MAGNETIC-GRVITATIONAL FIELD: Is every gravitational field necessarily bound up with an electromagnetic field? Imagine a common approximation or model for analogizing gravity as the geometrical effect of a disturbance caused by a large mass in a field, as in the case of a bowling ball on a large and taut trampoline. Then imagine small marbles rolled towards the bowling ball. The marbles will roll round and round, gradually drawing close to the indentation correlated with the bowling ball. The marbles will not orbit, because the trampoline injects friction as the marbles roll along it.

Now, imagine an electromagnetic field were added, so that the marbles rolled along in air above the trampoline, but towards the bowling ball. In empty space, where an electromagnetic field is added to the gravitational field, the marbles, once directed towards the disturbance in the field caused by the bowling ball, could be caused to approach it at such a vector as to be captured in an orbit. If the bowling ball itself were rolling towards an even bigger disturbance in the field, then the marbles could be interpreted as rotating in an elliptical orbit around the bowling ball.

CONTINUOUS FIELD VECTORS: Is every gravitational field necessarily bound up with an electromagnetic field? Taken together, do they constitute one CONTINUOUS electro-magnetic-gravitational field? Is one fluxing electro-magnetic-gravitational field the math-basis for the continuous particle-vectors of all photons, gravitons, inertial masses, and energy radiations? Is the continuous, WAVE-LIKE flux of such field the calculus-math-basis for the wave function of such particle-vectors?

DISCRETE FIELD RANDOM LEAPS: What about DISCRETE-jumping-quanta-particles at the digital, random, and leaping level of statistical-math-basis? A purely geometric idea of a continuous geometric field cannot represent or correlate well with the digital-math-values for a field comprised of leaping, interconverting quanta. For such a field of discretes, should MASS-VALUES best be conceptualized based on a model of correlative Higgs Bosons? Should CHARGE-VALUES for quanta-level forces of attracton and repulsion be based on an idea of polarization and discrete-spins?

FLUXES SECONDARY TO RENORMALIZATION: Are continuous fluxes of electro-magnetic-gravitational fields and discrete jumps of quantized-particles "not real or directly relational in themselves," but only MATH-RENORMALIZED, to avail the storeage and communication of Information across the continuity of space-time and between the variously discretized local perspectives?

DEEP STUBBORN IMPRINTS: If so, then curvature of space-time and quanta leaps are not existents-in-themselves, but Mind-Constructs that are at a deep and stubborn level imprinted into every local perspective. They offer a way for each recording avatar and perspective of consciousness to record, translate, and interpret its mathematical locus of experience into sensations that are renormalized to its relational locus.

RENORMALIZATION TO LOCAL FIELD CENTER OF MASS AND CHARGE: In whatever way math-values flux and interconnect to describe a system, they must be experienced to every local recording and observation as being renormalized in such a way as to conserve constants for the speed of light and the acceleration due to gravity, based on locally unified field center-of-mass-and-charge.

LOCAL APPEARANCE OF CAUSE-EFFECT: But for the appearance that bodies (cue balls) can push and pull one another by setting up some kind of causal relationship or "contact," there would abide no way for different perspectives of consciousness to apprehend communications in measurable terms with one another as such.

LOCAL CAUSATION AND PARTICIPATORY WILL VS META CAUSATION AND RECONCILING WILL: For each locus, the present combined state of its photons and gravitons is not the cause of each next apparent unfolding. The present state is merely the correlative for the local renormalizing of measurable communications that accompany each next unfolding. The choice of each next unfolding manifestation of measurable substance is under the Meta-Conservation of the Reconciler. The Reconciler expresses itself through the various levels and layers of Participatory Wills of each and every perspective that is renormalized to whatever the frame of reference being experienced locally.

NO BEGINNING OR END TO MATH SPACE OR MATH TIME: The cosmos always consists with one system of math frames being pushed and pulled after and into another. The substantive space-time aspect of it, respecting an originating big bang or a final dissipation, is illusion. The only real aspect is an immeasurable qualitative that fluxes with its expression of Self Identity in terms made quantitative in respect of locally renormalizable math-values. That is, IT quantitatively renormalizes to local recordinga and appearances of perspective.

STANDARD REQUIRED, BUT NO NON-META STANDARD AVAILABLE: There is no non-meta, measurable recorder or observer that sets a standard for all loci in the cosmic system, except as to calculable sequence (chronology preservation). The experience of space-time may be distorted, stretched, expanded, compressed, but whatever the Information regarding events that may be shared among perspectives, its empirically calculable sequentiality is preserved. (Chronology Protection Device.)

GOD: There is no non-meta, measurable recorder or observer that sets a standard for all loci in the cosmic system, except as to calculable sequence (chronology preservation). The experience of space-time may be distorted, stretched, expanded, compressed, but whatever the Information regarding events that may be shared among perspectives, its empirically calculable sequentiality is preserved. (Chronology Protection Device.)

Math-value is constantly, continuously, immediately, and synchronously renormalized for the range of freedom that is allowed for the expression of every particle-field. Every particle-field is defined in respect of whatever may then and there constitute the center of its local mass and charge of reference. Every locus in the electro-magnetic-gravitational web of space-time and apparent-contact-sequence is renormalized to the perception and experience of whatever its local recorder or observer.

How and why is the measurable cosmos set to so much fine tuning effort to avail every local perspective with potential for experiences that are renormalizeable to it? Mere math, by itself, could not do this. Intuitively, some immeasurable quality or Character seems needed to synchronize, reconcile, activate, vector, and guide all the appearances that are presented to us in quantitatively renormalized terms. Does this not reasonably lead to intuition of a purposeful Meta-Reconciler?

If no-thing of what appears is related to any common standard for measurable reality, if all that appears seems to bubble forth in respect of math-values out of otherwise nothingness, then is not some Immeasurable-Meta Essence-Source implicated? After all, even a zero bank account is still more than zero. Rather, it is a bank account, with measurable potential that depends on a qualitative character of its sponsor.

LIMITS OF GOD: I do not need to try to figure out the limits, if any, of God. I don't seek a complete explanation of everything and every possibility. I am instead interested in appreciating, in a consistent and coherent way, how and what God seems here and now to be communicating to us.

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INFORMATION:

RELAY OF BITS OF INFORMATION: Photons and electrons relay Information about the contact surface of particles from which they reflect or originate.

INTERPRETATIONS OF COLLECTED ORGANIZATIONS OF BITS: Computing Beings interpret Information from collections of photons and electrons that are received as a result of reflection or origination from an Organized Body.

ORGANIZATIONS OF ORGANIZATIONS OF INFORMATION: Organized Information about Organized Bodies can thus be sensed, modeled, and interpreted. Abstract organizations (printed words and physical signs) can be modeled for preserving Information about sub-abstractions about sub-abstractions about sub-abstractions.

CONSCIOUSNESS: Appreciation of Consciousness is entailed in the renormalization of Information for a contemporaneous Observer-Appreciator with which Information is received and collapsed into a quantifiable state.

CONTINUITY OF IDENTITY: Continuity in the qualitative appreciation of Information does not destroy the Conscious Identity state of an Interpreting Observer.

SUBSTANCE: Potential for quantitative Measurement of Substance is entailed in the renormalitive absorption of Information with a non-consciously-observing Recorder-Storer. The Information that is absorbed may in some respects be kept in an ambiguous and unresolved state. Continued absorption of Information changes by erosion and accumulation the physical state of the Recorder.

INFORMATION: Information is that which is qualitatively appreciated by Consciousness and quantitatively measured by Substance.

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

If you're going to exclude, then you need clearly to define what it is that you are excluding. Did the Founders, clearly and irrevocably, exclude a person such as Cruz, born of an American mother, defined by Congress to be a citizen at birth, from running for President? I see diviners so arguing (though why they do so is baffling). However, I do not see clear support for such an argument in either the Constitution itself or in the historical context.

Where in the Constitution does it clearly or unambiguously say the Founders intended a meaning of "natural born citizen" that must thenceforth foreclose a person such as Cruz from running for President? Are we to disqualify people under the readings of diviners of tea leaves who claim under historical context, perhaps with aid of a seer stone, to read, better than Scotus, the minds of a majority of the Founders and Ratifiers?

You keep referring to an original "definition" that is not found in the Constitution itself, but that you claim a Swiss philosopher, Vattel, writing in French, would make, and you want to put that definition in the minds of all the Founders. We don't know, but you would guess that none of the Founders would have had varying ideas about the meaning. At most, we know some of the Founders were concerned that a person who may have the conflicting loyalty of a foreign prince ought not be allowed to become President. But I see nothing in the historical context to indicate that a majority of the Founders or Ratifiers intended to foreclose a person such as Cruz, born of an American mother, whom Congress has seen fit to define as a citizen at birth, who clearly has no conflicting foreign loyalty, from running.

The Founders, as a body, expressed no clear intention to require Congress to exclude a person who was born of an American mother, and who a subsequent Congress defined as a citizen at birth, from running for President.

Whatever the rationale you have for trying to interpret to the contrary does not now apply, if ever it did. Concepts and things that were fuzzy before often become clearer in time. For example, we don't exclude modern physics from shedding light on modern challenges merely because principles known now were not known in the time of Newton. The Constitution is not a suicide pact to require us to close our eyes to unfolding realities.

it is chimerical to interpret the Founders as having intended to foresee and foreclose Cruz from running for President, given his situation of being a citizen at birth of an American mother. The language of the Constitution as a whole, as it has been amended, and as Congress has exercised its authority, does not require such foreclosure. Nor does the Constitution legitimize people who claim superiority over Scotus to foreclose interpretations of controversies.

No policy consideration, as actually expressed by the Founders as a body, forecloses Cruz. Nor does good sense require Cruz' exclusion. How can anyone suppose that Cruz, because he comes from such a pool as he does, must be less likely to be a loyal citizen than a person, such as Obama, who is said to come from a pool such that he is apparently born in the United States?

What in non-Gigo logic or science makes it more likely that a person said to have been born in the U.S., such as Obama, who is nowadays necessarily exposed to so much politically correct nonsense from modern academia, would in any way be likely to be more loyal to whatever may be supposed to be the American Ideal than a person such as Cruz? Neither science nor common sense suggest any such a thing.

Anonymous said...

After the crash of 2008, Greenspan admitted there was a flaw in his conception of the market as being the answer to economic concerns. That flaw traces to the turning of politicians and governments into market commodities.



The consequence of that has been to turn citizenries into debt slaves to oligarchs by leading citizens to rely more on credit than wages to try to secure their stations in the middle class. This is compounded by opening national borders in such a way as to require laborers to bid themselves against other laborers, worldwide -- no matter what their level of desperation or ideology. In this way, national resources are conveyed to oligarchs on the cheap, though defended by patriots better than themselves, while many workers are reduced to day laborers, desperately bidding themselves against other laborers who are trapped so that they must compete under despotic regimes.



This creates a constant and continuous siphoninig effect that ever increases and solidifies the gap between rich and poor. It destabilizes nations and cultures and ruins representative republics. For every 4 dollars handed down in credit, perhaps 6 are siphoned up. Economies are plundered, while the rich feel little need to invest. They prefer not to invest until labor is cheap and governance is reliable. Perhaps they wait until the NWO can be consolidated. Until then, they speculate in political favors, gold, art, and land.



Meanwhile, in formerly representative republics, the working middle class becomes less and less represented. Rather, main political parties tend to ally against middle class conservers of liberty, to further tighten the grip of the unfolding NWO. The flaw in the market-based model that is proffered as the end-all, be-all answer to all concerns is that politicians and governments ought not be reduced to commodities. The flaw is that our assimilated mores, Constitution, and laws do not avail us an effective counterweight against the continuing agglomeration of corrupt cronies paying cheap bribes to use idiots to consolidate power.



There is no simple fix to this flaw. Some things could be done, described as Liberty Amendments by Mark Levin. However, the wound runs deeper than that, because the very soul of Americans has been confused and compromised. It is as if Americans have consented that nothing special separates them from the mass of desperate humanity. So believing, they make it so.


Anonymous said...

I'm not completely sold on how innocent and isolationist America was.

During the Second Opium War, Americans supported British and French ground troops when the USS San Jacinto bombarded the Dagu Forts.

As to WWI, America's neutrality may have been tempered until the Czar was overthrown. I think Lenin had received German financing to proceed in Russia, but his elimination of the Czar may have backfired against Germany. The elimination of the Czar relieved some of America's reluctance to enter the war. Even so, America did not enter the war until after Germany resumed unrestricted submarine warfare and after President Wilson learned of an offer by Germany to align with Mexico in event America were to enter the war. (German agents had offered generous financial support and an understanding that Mexico would reconquer lost territory in Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona. To ensure Mexican neutrality, the U.S. recognized the government of President Carranza on August 31, 1917, even though this neutrality allowed German companies to keep operations open in Mexico City. Relations with Mexico were not especially friendly because this was occurring not that long after Pershing had been chasing Pancho Villa.)

As Britain began mining the North Sea, America's trade with Germany fell. The U.S. economy (especially the House of Morgan) came to depend much more on the survival of Britain and France than on trade with the Central powers. Once the U.S. became a combatant, it assisted Britain in completing the North Sea mine barrage, to prevent U-boats from operating in the North Atlantic and preying on trans-Atlantic shipping.

The consequence of war building improved the American economy, but it also taught the politicians how to shift from a market economy to a centrally regulated economy. This paved the way for what later morphed into the New Deal and its progeny.

Some may believe that America's entry into WWI led to a peace that ensured the necessity of a WWII.

As to WWII, American industrialists may have supplied crucial materials and technology needed by the German war machine for it to make effective use of gas, rubber and armor, before WWII began. See http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/randy/swas1.htm

It is not altogether clear that the participation of the U.S. and its oligarchs in these conflicts made the world a better place.

Anonymous said...

Chinese state capitalism. Race based capitalism. British colonialism. Muslim financing. Even people who want in good faith to value other people as individuals often come face to face with realities of group dynamics marked by race based identifiers.

Anonymous said...

Stop enriching them. The West should stop trading with Muslims. Work on developing resources in Western nations. Stop feeding the enemy. Problem is, we have another enemy: The treasonous international corporatists who like to trade with every precinct of hell if they can thereby enrich themselves.

We should also not have traded with statist commies. But it is too late to stop that, for America itself has become like a nation of statist commie crony corporatists. Obama is a destroyer of nations. He is an equal opportunity crony socialist and crony corporatist. The midwife is state capitalism, on the way to NWO corporate syndicalism. They want representative republics to be destroyed. This is why Rinos and Dinos are aligned against Conservers of Liberty.

Ultimately, this may play out in a lake of fire. That is, a war for global dominance among oligarchic despots over tribe-marked gene pools.

Anonymous said...

I doubt making all manner of vice, drugs, and sex legal for adults can slow the trend to gang violence. It will just gravitate to other depths. Human sex and slave trafficking and mills for capturing and selling children as property. This trend cannot be slowed by rescinding the Second Amendment. None of the Waco gang bangers would give a frosty shiite about any law making their weapons illegal. When 100 bandidos ride on the I35 corridor through Austin, weaving in and out of traffic at excess speeds, you tend to notice two things: First, everyone is careful not to run into any of them. Second, the police seem to have found convenient exits.

Meanwhile, dufus profs and Austin weirdos give these outlaws excuses for outlawry, as if "the man" made them do it. Yup, Waco, Ferguson, and Baltimore were all caused by the man. Sarc. Mark Twain said, Ignorant people think it is the noise which fighting cats make that is so aggravating, but it ain't so; it is the sickening grammar they use." But I say that the noise which fighting and looting gangs make is aggravating mainly because the "reasoning" that is taught to cover it is so sickening. The sick factor is squared when you add in that kids go deep into debt to pay tuition to get certified in prof-taught idiocy.

Edit: Compare what happened in the originating Muslim culture, where polygamy and hash hish were probably legal and prevalent. As such delicacies become legal, to what do oligarchs and warlords turn next? Well, to caravan raids for acquiring work and sex slaves. Strip clubs. Muslim raiders filled their harems with underage captive girls. Muslims were very active in the slave trade. So, as polygamy and hash hish become commonplace, what may the West expect? Peace, love and security? I doubt it. I half expect an epileptic prof to get a new despotic vision that unites and rationalizes a new round of polar bear hunting and sex trafficking. He could even open a dialogue with ISIS.

Anonymous said...

Polygamy, pedophilia, homosexuality and bestiality pave the way for Islam. Once the women are under wraps and in harems, the single men gravitate to children, boys, dhimmi men, and goats. As long as they do it under some kind of Islamic justification, they will become good missiles of mindless mad max musloidism. Goat sex and hash hish. Ah, the good life. No wonder Progs and Muslims make such beautiful friendships.

RLO notes in a companion article: "[B]oth Islamists and gay men aspire to separate men from women, albeit in different realms, to the noted benefit of men and to the obvious rejection of women as autonomous beings with dignity and rights."

Our kids are being had by corrupt and ignorant profs, who are leading them to beg to have their autonomy taken away in exchange for nothing but lies. Through them, our republic is being had. Obama's idea of a red line is nothing but a slide into an abyss.

Anonymous said...

The schools have the 18 year olds trained like guppies to believe everyone is an ogre unless he is down with judge-forced recognition of ssm, fed-funded instruction for encouraging deviancy, following the social mores of Obama as a good guide, and sanctuary benefits for helping "immigrants" come out of the shadows. These are their litmus tests. Progs want everyone to submit to these litmus tests. This is how they mark and freeze the opposition.

When Cruz declines to play along by pointing out that ssm is not a proper area for fed regulation, Progs will try to mark him anyway. Our nasty profs are schooling our children in how to become scum. Next, they will be asking Cruz, "So, how come you hate freedom?" Scum.

Edit: Almost forgot -- gov funded condoms and the war on women. Progs are so incredibly enlightened, doncha know. Trust them with our priorities we must.

Anonymous said...

The regime desired that America become just another state, and that we give up trying to fundamentally change Iraq -- which would necessitate sustained committment. Having made that decision, consider now: When all the contestants are asses, is it not hard to root for anyone? Who's the bigger ass: Iran or ISIS? I don't know, so I'm asking.

Given that Obama decided to lose the war, how much more blood and treasure is Iraq now worth? Without ISIS, Iraq and Syria would be under Iran's thumb. So long as ISIS is not a threat to Israel or Jordan, how concerned should we be? Yes, ISIS consists of sub-human monsters. Musloids and sub-human monsters exist. But we quit the field. So now, as Dracula is fighting the Werewolf, how concerned should we be? Didn't Vlad the Impaler help hold back the Islamic horde? Maybe it takes a caliph backfire to hold back a sharia nuclear fire.

ISIS is Sunni. It is horrible, but it also breaks up the Shia Crescent.

Anonymous said...

Thinking people ought not allow the mantra of free trade to be used as a Trojan Horse to reduce America to just one more banana republic. The marketplace is an essential tool, but it is not the God particle. After the crash of 2008, Greenspan admitted there was a flaw in his conception of the market as being the answer to economic concerns. That flaw traces to the turning of politicians and governments into market commodities.

The consequence of that has been to turn citizenries into debt slaves to oligarchs by leading citizens to rely more on credit than wages to try to secure their stations in the middle class. This is compounded by opening national borders in such a way as to require laborers to bid themselves against other laborers, worldwide -- no matter what their level of desperation or ideology. In this way, national resources are conveyed to oligarchs on the cheap, though defended by patriots better than themselves, while many workers are reduced to day laborers, desperately bidding themselves against other laborers who are trapped so that they must compete under despotic regimes.

This creates a constant and continuous siphoning effect that ever increases and solidifies the gap between rich and poor. It destabilizes nations and cultures and ruins representative republics. For every 4 dollars handed down in credit, perhaps 6 are siphoned up. Economies are plundered, while the rich feel little need to invest. They prefer not to invest until labor is cheap and governance is reliable. Perhaps they wait until the NWO can be consolidated. Until then, they speculate in political favors, gold, art, and land.

Meanwhile, in formerly representative republics, the working middle class becomes less and less represented. Rather, main political parties tend to ally against middle class conservers of liberty, to further tighten the grip of the unfolding NWO. The flaw in the market-based model that is proffered as the end-all, be-all answer to all concerns is that politicians and governments ought not be reduced to commodities. The flaw is that our assimilated mores, Constitution, and laws do not avail us an effective counterweight against the continuing agglomeration of corrupt cronies paying cheap bribes to use idiots to consolidate power.

There is no simple fix to this flaw. Some things could be done, described as Liberty Amendments by Mark Levin. However, the wound runs deeper than that, because the very soul of Americans has become confused and compromised. It is as if Americans have consented that nothing special separates them from the mass of desperate humanity. So believing, they make it so.

Anonymous said...

I don't support national Republicans, except Cruz. I don't support blue laws. Otoh, I don't support fed or judge enforcement on states to recognize ssm. I tire of being blamed for the abuses of those who seek to make the Old Testament, beyond the proscriptions against murder, theft, and perjury, into manmade law. I have no problem with schools encouraging respect for the Great Commandment and the Golden Rule. Those Commandments are largely based on each individual's relationship with a higher Principler. I am not a fundie conservative. I am a conserver of liberty. Absent vigilance, liberty is not conserved. I suspect liberals and libertarians wrongly conflate conservatives at least as much, possibly more, than conservatives conflate libs.

Anonymous said...

People who are not financially suffering because they have found ways to get gov to pay for their necessities include: Gays, single moms, and quota-filling minorities. The politically represented class of social siphoners have learned how to organize and use these people to keep a certain other class maligned for not working and giving enough. That other class would consist of the competent, "white" (responsible), male, veteran, defenders and makers of Western Civ. For their work and sacrifice, members of this other class are called rubes, hillbilllies, phobes, chauvenists, misogynists, and racists. This helps incompetents, maleducated and malcontented poseurs, deviants, addicts, parasites, and their professional apologists and organizers assauge their (earned) feelings of inferiority for having made poor choices all their lives. It helps prevent competent, responsible, male, veteran, defenders and makers of Western Civ from getting too uppity or deigning to serve as role models.

The entirety of the political platform of the parasitic Left consists in being against the competent, responsible, male, veteran, defenders and makers of Western Civ. Without being against that class, the Left would have no way to define any purpose for itself. The most pertinent and important GAP is in political influence. Competent, responsible, male, veteran, defenders and makers of Western Civ have been mocked, branded, frozen and excluded, so that they have very little real political representation or influence. Except, that is, to be harnessed and sweated.


For the blow-dried, metrosexual "journalists" who serve their oligarchic owners, the most important concerns about which to ask conservatives and tea partiers are: Why do you "hate" gays, enclaved minorities, sex and drug induced pleasures, women, and fair redistribution? The underlying theme drips with this inference: You misogynist, bigoted, racist, phobic, tightwadded, rube, you! Everything! the Left looks at is through a glass prisom of homosexuality, gender, and race. Without that, the Left would be nothing. With that, the Left expects to elect Hillary -- the first gay, "black," female prezy. All swoon.

Anonymous said...

Hillary has always been compromised. Competing gangsters are more willing to tolerate an opposing gang that has some vulnerabilities that can be exploited. So long as Hillary knows who and how to pay off, she will probably be fine. If no alternative candidate shows to be viable among the Dems, the media will close ranks and the message will become, "That's old news." No Dem will spit on Mrs. Capone's cape. And no Dem will want to risk putting the DOJ under the supervision of someone who might actually respect law and order.

Anonymous said...

The gov doesn't take from the rich. The rich do just fine. They pretend to pay for gov, but do it by using the political voting power of the useful poor to take from the working stiffs while they siphon out the fiat trough. Oligarchs don't support Dems because they care about the little people! They support Dems because they are idiots who are useful for helping to fleece the working stiffs. Whatever the super rich pay tends to be more than compensated by crony kickbacks. It's the small business owners and working stiffs who are paying.

Working stiffs are being had. Gov redistribution does not help them. It just helps the rich and the welfare class keep them harnessed and sweated. It produces hammocks on porches while it destroys the representative republic.

Anonymous said...

Re: "Women were sold like cattle and treated as slaves"

Byzantine Rome did not fall until 1453, after the West had been weakened by plague and war. During the 11th Century, the use of hash hish became common among Muslims.* It seems polygamy-minded Muslims high on Allah and hash hish invaded in search of booty, young virgin sex, and work slaves. This is how harems are made.

The modern West is being weakened by a plague of metrosexual pedophiles and disloyal oligarchs who are maleducating the populace to accept polygamy, child grooming, and hash hish. The way the Muslim devils took Byzantine is apparently being repeated in America. Metrosexual deviants, child groomers, sex traffickers, and polygamy-advocates appear to be their vanguard.

Once the traditional family is de-defined and destroyed, non-harem owning men may search out cousins, other men, and goats to satisfy their urges. Women may be relegated to roles of servitude. Once Progs eliminate faith, family and fidelity, the way is cleared for despotic totalitarianism.

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*Marco Polo, the Venetian explorer, related how Hasan, "the old man of the mountain," snared young men and fed them a secret potion in the splendid gardens of his fortress, the Alamut. In this earthly paradise their main activity was to make love to sensuous women. This way Hasan kept his young followers under his spell and was able to send them on dangerous missions to assassinate his opponents. He promised the young men, "Upon your return, my angels shall bear you into paradise."
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Several Arab sultans as well as leaders of the Crusades were murdered by these terrorists of the 12th century. Among them was Conrad Marquis de Montferrat, assassinated by one of Hasan's followers who had penetrated the Crusaders' camp disguised as a monk. So feared was the old man that even Saladin, one of the most famous Muslim generals of his time, had to abandon his plan to storm the Alamut.
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Hasan's devotees who were engaged in spreading a vast network of open and secret influence over the Muslim world, from Egypt to Iran and beyond.
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In the middle of the 13th century, the Mameluks overthrew the
Ayyubid dynasty in Syria and Egypt, thereby inaugurating a lengthy period of economic, social, and cultural decadence which coincided with widespread use of hashish among the common people. This somber period of Egyptian history (1250-1571) was followed by the ruthless domination of the Ottoman Empire, which lasted until1804.


http://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC1805385&blobtype=pdf

[Aside: Marco Polo must have embellished. He was born too late to have met Hasan, the mysterious "Old Man of the Mountain" who led an order of assasins.]

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So, i believe you hit the nail on the head wheh you noted:

"The disheartening issue is that our Progressives are really no different in kind than the Islamists but only in degree except when they reach totalitarian pitch, in which case they are indistinguishable."

Anonymous said...

Define your "self." Is there some ultimate self-in-itself that is the common moral arbiter of all social interactions? What is its essential, unifyng aspect? Does morality have a real basis that can in good faith be assimilated by all? If not, what do you mean by "morality?" Is it the morality of, "It's moral if I-self-say it's moral"?

Anonymous said...

Well, can one reasonably seek moral guidance without believing a basis for moral purposefulness abides?

And what have dragons got to do with anything? If a being intrudes in the form of a dragon, that form will be empirically measurable. If it does not physically intrude, then why call it a dragon? Or an old man with a long beard?

Anonymous said...

A child on an undiscovered island who has inmate faith in a redeeming Reconciler who wants to guide him to good works in effect "believes in Christ."

Anonymous said...

You are assuming an answer to a contradiction and then mistaking your assumption as an argument to take a side. The argument for an immeasurable God is based not on scientific measurability, but on innate, qualitative insight. That is, a leap of faith, from what is self evident concerning the conscious experience of oneself to an intuition that a unifying aspect of consciousness is eternal.

Such faith, by definition, is evidenced to reasoned intuition and qualitative modeling, not to empirical testing. As to the method of that, scientists themselves, in their axiomatic points of beginning, take much the same approach. Therefore, ask: Based on what is self evident, self affirming, self fulfilling, and intuitive, what is reasonable to believe concerning the limits of one's conscious self and Identity and a Guide for moral instruction? The evidence is in the unfolding consistency of moral models, not in empirical falsification. Qualitative consistency, not unavailable quantitative measurement.

Anonymous said...



The myths you refer to are metaphors and models concerning that which is immeasurable. Science deals also with models. The aspects of models that are measurable are sometimes called empirical. The aspects that are not measurable are faith based.

For example, string theory is, at best, faith based. Even the scientifically foundational idea of cause-effrect is based on a model of cue-balls, or of a space-time web that is often modeled as if it were like a taut tarpoline dented by heavy masses. In turn, these models are based on finding patterns of correlations.

But skill in predicting unfolding patterns based on past correlations is not equivalent to uncovering any real, ultimate, final, or first cause. To say things fall because of gravity is in some aspects much the same as saying things fall because they fall. Moreover, skill in measuring correlations does not translate to authority for general moral instruction, as opposed to "if-then" instruction. And moral insight and instruction is perhaps the most important aspect of being a human being.

As to proving any qualitative concerning general moral instruction, the scientific method has had just about squat to say.

Anonymous said...

Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

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Thereafter, the metaphor is that Eve and Adam ate fruit from the tree of knowledge. It seems often to be rationalized that they were "free" (or had free or participatory will) --- even before they acquired knowledge. But it seems like bafflegab to suppose one can be responsibly free to choose when one lacks self awareness or knowledge. Can a robot "fall" from grace?

I think participatory will, knowledge, temptation, empathy beyond the perimeter of one's skin, and sin, are all of a piece. Without capacity to sin, man would not be man. Nor worth guiding.

Anonymous said...

Well, what is the reach of "the self"? Is the self confined to the perimeter limits of one's skin? Or does it extend to a field beyond? Whatever IT is that avails one's Identity, I think it extends beyond one's skin. I think man is "inherently challenged." On that account, man needs a reconciling Guide. An assimilating, reconciling ideal of moral principles.

Anonymous said...

To posit that an angry God needed to become human and sacrifice Himself to Himself in order to assauge His anger has always seemed like bafflegab. To reconcile with such an idea, resort has been made to various ways of rationalizing. How can I come to reconcilation with the ideas of grace and works? First, take stock and apprehend: No mortal is or can be perfect, nor exist in himself. Yet, each mortal life and death seems to convey moral meaningfulness.

That message has always needed to be promoted and exemplified. The example of Jesus shows us that a conscious and moral life can be lived and that material death can convey meaning. That spiritual meaningfulness transcends death, whatever one's system of religioius metaphors. That appreciating this enhances the quality of life and the peace of its transcendence. That consciousness trumps materiality because the Reconciler abides. That, ultimately, good works are best pursued in respect of good faith. That decent and sustainable civilization necessitates faith in three ideals: An inviting Reconciler; family-based loyalty to propagation of progeny;and religious will to defend and represent its republican home base. Faith, family and fidelity. That for these three foundational purposes we should be guided by the Great Commandment and the Golden Rule.

Thus, an enlightened society ought not tolerate the works of those who seek the "fundamental changing" or destruction of base-rock principles. The made-up monstrosity of a lustful and hate-driven moon god of Allah is an evil expression of the antithesis of everything that is worthwhile in the ideal of an inviting and guiding Reconciler. It is the rationalization of followers of an epileptic caravan raider who pursued an addictive evil and sociopathic need to fill his harem with young booty.

While we remain as mortals, the challenge of overcoming evil will be always with us. Faith in a transcendent and reconciling Guide is essential to our pursuits of moral meaningfulness. Such faith need not conform to any one strait jacket of religious ceremonies, priestly intermediaries, or professed forms of talismanic or dogmatic expression. Yet, the New Testament offers perhaps the straightest path to understanding.

To fail in faith to renounce the antithesis of the New Testament is to dissolve in the face of evil. To undermine faith in the Reconciling Principler, loyalty to family values, and stout defense of the republican homeland, is to be a saboteur in the service of evil. To seek to water down the Source-Essence in order to bless all manner of depravity is to drink of weakness that augurs great gnashing of teeth.

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