Friday, September 30, 2016

Faith v. Science


The ultimate test will be when we try to program/convince forms of A.I. that we are "entitled by birthright" to be served by them, "to infinity and beyond." 

We will be like pet rocks telling their owners they can't live without us.  https://youtu.be/CjtOORnzDgc  When pet rock owners become adults-in-body, they begin to imagine they can know and control the best way to keep their biggest pet rock (which is Gaia) stable, temperate, and comfortable.

If you tell them otherwise, they will run shrieking to their safe comforters, where they will enlist their entire wussie-clan to try to get you banned, if not exterminated.  Nice and reasonable people they are.  Not.

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From what I have seen, the liberal whose "reasoning" is not centered around little more than name calling is a fairy tale.
For an example of typical lib reasoning, notice the Brit decision to preclude naming the religion of terrorists. Next, Brit meathouses will be ordered not to show their captive cattle-people the captive bolt pistol that waits for them at the end of their line.


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The domains of the Existential Measurable versus the Existential Immeasurable seem to be different, yet fluxing.  Trying to confine each to its separate territory seems to be a fool's errand, in that what is measurable or immeasurable seems to exist in a state of perpetual recedence (the beginning of infinity).

Moreover, the hubris of the measure-ists often keeps them blind to intuition that the Godhead (Immeasurable Source) exists beyond measure, but materially expresses itself via that which conforms to a web of math.  IOW, whatever is materially expressed must conform to the geometrical web of space-time math, but what is chosen to be expressed out of the myriad of possibilities for being expressed is beyond math.  This is why the subjectivity of the objective to rules of math is no evidence at all of the non-existence of the Godhead. 


Rather, the Godhead is in the realm of the spiritual Source, which abides as an interfunctioning Source.  It abides as the Source of spiritually conscious reconciliation, beyond material description or measure.  However, it is not beyond innate, intuitive, empathetic receptivity and metaphoric appreciation.  Being willing in humble good faith to come together in respect of that guiding Source is a powerful way for us to assimilate moral values and appreciate meaningful purposefulness.  Losing that faith is poisonously disassimilative of civilizing values and purposefulness.  There are those who say faith is not essential to assimilating civilization.  But that tends only to be their way to express their faith in a more confused and dissonant way.

Religion often faciliates problems in two ways:  First, when faith is lost or made absurd.  Second, when faith is led not by those who come to reason and empathize together in good will, but by those who are knowitall authoritarians -- whether of science or of religion.

To think that true religion can reveal the measure of God to mere mortals, while they are mortals, is simple bafflegab.  It does not reveal the measure of God.  It just supplies authoritarian Pharisees and Priests who claim to be mouthpieces for God in every particular.  Jesus revealed metaphors in support of the Great Commandment and the Golden Rule.  He did NOT measure out a blueprint for Heaven.  When a person of good faith says he BELIEVES God would want such and such in a particular situation, I can be with him.  When he claims to be the infallible mouthpiece for interpreting and RECITING LITERALISTICALLY PRECISE directives from God, I am not.  When he claims that, he is part of the problem.  Like Mohammad. 

The Bible, like the Cosmos, is an expression for the poetic and metaphoric appreciation of the Godhead.  It does NOT reveal God except metaphorically.  It's value is as a foundation, as it unfolds for each new generation of people as they come together in good faith.  But for the potential for people to reconcile the Bible (and the cosmos), to experience it and make it pertinent to their situation, it reverts to insensible patterns.

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To my intuition, it makes no sense to imagine that the Godhead cares in the least whether we want to receive His guidance in simple good faith and good will, or whether we do so while making a sign of the cross and pretending wine "really" becomes blood.  The value of sacraments is not in pretending bafflegab is literal truth.  The value is in preparing ourselves to be inspired.

To my belief, you're dressing up belief, calling it revelation, and pretending that makes it more objectively factual.  I have no problem with your belief!

What I have a problem with is priests and prophets pretending (or deluding) to be mouthpieces for God, with authority to usurp and replace each individual's own journey towards appreciating the Godhead.  I find that kind of busybodyness to tend to the same kind of abuse as knowitall metro-matriarchal global-govermentalism.

If there were a knowable, objective interpretation of Beingness and the Word, it would be amenable of objective means of proof, i.e., science.  But to seek scientific proof of that which is beyond science is a fool's errand.  Nor is such a project advanced by punting to "revelation." How many phony priests and prophets have claimed special revelation, to the suffering and tears of humankind?  How many self-righteous, authoritative recipients of revelation acted as monstrous inquisitors to sorely abuse the general message of Jesus?  What is your test for deciding which loony or dogma is the "true" recipient of revelation?

The truth of Jesus was in His teaching of the Great Commandment and the Golden Rule.  Everything else was metaphorical commentary.  Extremely valuable as belief and inspirational poetry, but not as knowable objectivism or literalistic science.

Keep your faith.  Just don't presume knowledge or authority to force it as "objectively" revealed and correct secular governance.  That's what got us into the Dark Ages the first time. That's what Muslims want to do with Shariah Law.  That's not what I would call good faith or good will.  That's what I would call knowitall fascism.  Not Jesus-like in the least.

When I consider how God might make a world that avails pursuit of meaningful purposefulness, I am unable to imagine how it could comport with the kind of bafflegab so-called priests and prophets want to call "revealed truth."  All you're doing is taking what seems reasonable to you, calling it "revealed truth," and presuming it should, by force if necessary, be made reason for everyone.

What I am saying is:  No thanks.  We should come to reason and empathize together in respect of the Godhead/Source.  But no mortal should be entertained to pretend to "reveal" what the Godhead demands in each situation.  Assimilating belief and faith in Pilgrim's Progress are quite enough, thank you very much.

As to "the steward" -- I would put that with the spiritual good faith and good will of consciousness.  That is, the soul of humanity.  Not with any other passing or changing institution.

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The establishment has become a selfish, godless, central octopus.  Its inductees, cronies, shills, dupes, free-stuff addicts, and gang-banging subhumans are unlimited in the outrages they are willing to commit to vent their mania and maintain their position.  They will spread nukes and poisons to all like themselves, and they are entirely willing to destroy America and the world in order to "save the planet" (for their godless sociopathy).  Obama is not just the worst president ever.  He is nearer the perfection of evil than we have seen in 65 years.  And he has many subhumanoid followers.

Our Founders gave us a beginning point, but they and we have failed to keep ahead of its nemesis -- which is godless treason to humanity.  Now, that godless treason, via inadequately checked oligarchic agents of international criminal corporatism, means to corporately colonize, cannibalize and subhumanize the masses and all their nations. 

 Question: What is a person who is willing to trade his freedom of expression and enterprise for gov-provided "free stuff," "safe spaces," and gang-banger "fairness"? Answer: A subhumanoid metro-femi-tick on the gov te at. A sub-competent college prof who teaches "critical studies." A pinkie-wagging, sociopathic-socialistic prezzie who wants to fundamentally change (de-ba ll) the U.S. A child-grooming perv-abuser. A cry-bullying, responsibility-avoiding, entitlement-minded, self-inflated thug-looter. A faux-enlightened, neck-bearded metro-wuss.

A time for choosing is coming. Real Americans will not consent to being shotgun-wedded to the matriarchal metro-commie-farm. A third term for Obama-Hillary? No thanks. Gag.

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In part, intuition pertains to direct experience, not dependent on other proof.  Main example:  Consciousness of self.  Unless the Godhead is fundamentally conscious, it is meaningless.

Reason applies to self analysis of intuitions, emotions, purposes, and material measurables.  Measurable reason does not exhaust the sphere of reason.  To say otherwise is what is incoherent.

I do not reject scientific reasoning for dealing with what is in the realm of science.  (If you are so "objective," perhaps you have an "objective proof" of God and of God's purposes?  Lol.)

I simply say that what is in the realm of the spiritual (the quality of consciousness of self) is not entirely reducible to the realm of science.  This is obvious to every coherent thinker.

I did NOT say nothing is objective.  Your "reasoning" is juvey strawmanish.  Indeed, what I said is that the only way the spiritual Godhead "speaks" to us is through a web of measurables (math based objects).  (Regarding REASON:  Do you want people to forsake reason and just accept dogma, or do you want them to reason in receptivitiy to the Godhead for themselves?  Why does it offend your faith that I prefer to reason for myself with regard to my relationship with the Trinity?  Do you fear the Trinity is inadequate to guide me without your ministrations?)

When you say "the Church," do you have any idea what you mean?  Which version of Catholic dogma do you have in mind?  Check out a list of Christian heresies.   See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_heresies.

Then tell me which among them are "facts" and which are not.

I do not purport to judge Catholicism (whatever you think it is).  I only say I tend not to trust knowitall priests or prophets any more than I trust knowitall despots.  I prefer for the Word the Holy Book of the Cosmos -- of which the Bible is an important and inspirational part, but not the only part.  I prefer being receptive to the Godhead for myself, thanks all the same.  No need to have a cow.

BTW -- Even the "object(ive) "facts" that apply to our "Book of the Cosmos" (i.e., our laws of physics, even the speed of light) are subject(ive) to eventual phase shifting, bubble bursting, and brane altering.  You may want to think more about the trinitarian-character-and-nature of the Eternal and the Infinite.  Or maybe you already knowitall?

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I don't see how a person of principle could advocate or preach for a higher or spiritual basis for values and mores without believing, via innate intuition or appreciative empathy, in a Source with which we have an ongoing relationship of guidance, feedback. and reconciliation. Otherwise, how could a person, with any consistency or coherence, help guide or counsel anyone with regard to values, mores, or unfolding purposes?
Without spirit of guiding consciousness, we would only be epiphenomena riding on the power or clockwork of inanimated physics. In that case, the counselor who advised "Do as thou wilt" would be as "valid" as any other, and the pretense of coming together in a church would only be fanfare for unprincipled absurdists. Good faith (Great Commandment) and good will (Golden Rule) would be presumed absurd -- without consistent purpose or coherent meaning. Like a church for barking dogs. Or gland fixated hedonists and doped up libertines, blowing their brains to addictive orgiastics and suicidally blotted consciousness.

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REGARDING REFORMATION OF ISLAM:

I've probably led us both a bit into the weeds.  I do like the idea you have expressed of permitting will.  To my way of conceptualizing about this topic, "free will" is a misleading idea, but not one that is entirely without basis.  It just needs to factor with feedback -- from perspective, context, and source.

The basis for "will," I think, is that we have responsible, participatory, reconciled Will.  IOW, the upshot of "Will" is the unfolding reconciliation of a process of feedback between a reconciling holism (the Godhead/Source/Reconciler) and its variously appreciative perspectives (mortals) within a context (creation).  That may be more palatable to your expression of "permitting will."

Regardless, I don't think much that is rational or good can be rigorously derived from either Muslim or Calvinistic notions about "will."  I probably should not have spoken about "destiny."  My sense of that word is more towards the poetic or  metaphoric than the literal.

I might add, the implication of an ongoing, reconciling process entails an aspect of the Godhead that is continuously and presently involved and available for us to receive and draw on guidance -- intuitively and empathetically, but not measurably scientifically.  That entails an aspect that is not entirely outside our space-time nor one that has "left the building."  It may also entail an intuition that "heaven" is more like an eternally unfolding journey than a place.  IOW, our earthly sojourn would not seem to be a place to gamble, bargain, or work for harps, wings, halos, raisens, or virgins.  It may, however, be a place to cultivate good memories (or "karma"). Such is "Pilgrim's Progress."  :)

If reformation of Islam were possible, I suppose that is the direction I would take.

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Of course Islam is NOT a religion of peace (if it is a religion at all). Islam is tolerated in the West because the Middle East has oil money and has used it to buy corrupt politicians in the West.
Stalin taught the Saudis that the West will sell the rope needed to hang itself. Our political "elite" are now globalists with safe places all over the world. They do not care whether their republics are sold out, invaded, divided, reduced to rubble, or cannibalized. They are felonious, treasonous, and either faithless or faith perverse. They have financial interests for which they have invented a worldview that they find convenient for rationalizing their depredations, as if they were "giving back" and engaging in "public service."
Our systems of government had insufficient checks to prevent these subhuman monsters from floating to power (more as floaters than as cream) to control every formal institution of significance -- including churches. Monsters are set for power, regardless of whether they broomstick about under the fascist flag of Islam or the fascist flag of NWO socialism. Metrowussies are their advance guard useful idiots. Moreover, plunderers under the NWO have little interest in strengthening any republic to immunize it against fellow plunderers. NWO plunderers are no more interested in reforming Islam than they are in reforming themselves!
People with common sense know they have been sold out. They know their citizenries are being swamped with liberty illiterates, jihadis, and criminals. But they are not listened to because money talks to the NWO, while decent common sense walks. People that want to rule and people that want to be ruled have found one another, and their uniparty establishment now runs roughshod over every person of independent common sense.
Whether this is God's pre-planned destiny for us remains to be seen. If enough people wake up and recover decent faith, this may yet be turned around.

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I've probably led us both a bit into the weeds.  I do like the idea you have expressed of permitting will.  To my way of conceptualizing about this topic, "free will" is a misleading idea, but not one that is entirely without basis.  It just needs to factor with feedback -- from perspective, context, and source.

The basis for "will," I think, is that we have responsible, participatory, reconciled Will.  IOW, the upshot of "Will" is the unfolding reconciliation of a process of feedback between a reconciling holism (the Godhead/Source/Reconciler) and its variously appreciative perspectives (mortals) within a context (creation).  That may be more palatable to your expression of "permitting will."

Regardless, I don't think much that is rational or good can be rigorously derived from either Muslim or Calvinistic notions about "will."  I probably should not have spoken about "destiny."  My sense of that word is more towards the poetic or  metaphoric than the literal.

I might add, the implication of an ongoing, reconciling process entails an aspect of the Godhead that is continuously and presently involved and available for us to receive and draw on for guidance -- intuitively and empathetically, but not measurably scientifically.  It necessitates good faith (Great Commandment) and good will (Golden Rule).

That entails an Aspect of a Trinity that is not entirely outside our space-time, nor one that has "left the building."  It may also entail an intuition that "heaven" may be more like an eternally unfolding journey than a place.  IOW, our earthly sojourn would seem to be less a place to gamble, bargain, or work for eternal rewards or punishments, such as harps, wings, halos, raisens, or virgins.  Rather, it may be more a place to try to cultivate good memories (or "karma"). Such is "Pilgrim's Progress."  :)

If reformation of Islam were possible, I suppose that is the direction I would take.

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15 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is why Hillary's rainbow basket of genetic and cultural drag -- of commies, Media Matters, C-PUS-A, crybullies, BLM, metros, femimen, feminazis, gaynazis, race baiters, pimps, ticks, social arsonists, gang bangers, gov grubers, cronies, oligarchs, establishmentarians, bankers, TPP nation destroyers, predators, shills, critical studies profs and students, incompetent cannibals, people farmers, culties, CAIR, MB, goat lovers, child groomers, felons, dopers, basement dwellers and pajama boys -- is panicking. They know payback is a beatcch.

Anonymous said...

"Let's you and him fight." There are profits to be made and power to be acquired. At home, that translates into masses to be subjugated (regulated) and a Constitution to be defiled. As to lives to care about: You gotta be kidding! Those are opportunities to make refugees, the better to bury republics and red states.

We are too much under the thumbs of creeps and goons, their pugly exemplar par excellence being George Soros. Get some ropes.


Per the Left, the more the host resists, the more the blood suckers it attracts. Per the Left, competent adults should just lay down and let the blood suckers have their fill. Enough of the Left's insanity and evil! You want my blood? Come and take it!

Anonymous said...

By your thinking, rationalization (connecting facts to a fairy tale) is "reasoning." Ohhhkaaay.

Regarding web of math: You are in a cosmic web that is run under a math-based conservation of matter and energy. Did you know that? If not, why are you here?

Regarding the Church: The church is where two or more are gathered to be receptive to insights and reasoning about the Godhead. Did you not know that?

Regarding "all I read from you": If you can't understand me, or if my reasoning offends your web-of-rationalization, you can get out your monkey hammer and ban me. Or maybe burn me as a witch?

Anonymous said...

My concern relates to how to tear down a false wall in order to invite active Christians back into the political square, without licensing their priests and preachers to acquire gov-backed special authority over the representative republic.


I want to avoid the Iranian System for making convocations of priests or imams into higher authorities for interpreting, reconciling, and restating the secular law as it is enacted by our representatives in law.

Were priests to start pretending to be, under authority handed down from Jesus, the only "true" repositories of higher morality, law, knowledge, and revelation in all things, I believe that would be prelude to a new Dark Ages. I tend to see little in that to favor it over the delusions of a despotic and sociopathic "benefactor."


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We can go round and round about what is "really real." Regardless, on the important essence of your point, I am with you.

Hmmm. To your "knowledge," are not Protestants part of the body of Christ?

It would be interesting to see how you would try to define "intellect," "knowledge," "fact," and "true revelation" in any way that is rigorously consistent, so that such appellations could be tested without resort to mere favoritism and rationalization.

Example: Among the prophets of the Bible and the Koran that received revelations, which were proponents of "true facts" and which were false? Apart from belief, on what fact-based test do you distinguish them? Or is that some kind of personal "revelation on top of revelation"?

Is each person who accepts your system of belief a prophet? If not, on what basis do you say he has "knowledge" more than trained regurgitation?

Re: " The matrices of energy and matter of the multiverse do not alter the purpose of God's creating me and you."

Well, I did not say they did. But it interesting that you can talk about "the matrices" without considering yourself to be "new agey." (Note: Regardless of the particular math-based physics that may apply to any part of the multiverse, I suspect they would reduce to a singular, fluxing, unitarian, reconciling, trinitarian Godhead of (1) Consciousness (Son?), Substance (Father?), and Information (Holy Ghost?).)

Re: "the tradition": You avoided sharing your knowledge regarding which of the heresies are wrong and why. I suppose none of those "heretics" had "knowledge"?

When the Vatican eventually convenes to merge with the Eastern Orthodox Church (or even with other planets and worlds and forms of higher consciousness), will the upshot, to your knowledge, be the "New Improved Church"?

Regarding the society of baptized Christian believers: Were/are Ted Kennedy, Keith O'Brien, Marcial Maciel, James Hogan, Joseph Adamec, Nancy Pelosi, Paul Ryan, John Boehner, members of that society? When they help fund or favor abortion or gay marriage or gay grooming, are they Catholics or CINO's?

REGARDING "THE ROCK": See https://bible.org/question/wha...

But his declaration about Messiah’s person led to a declaration of Messiah’s program. Peter (Petros, masc.) was strong like a rock, but Jesus added that on this rock (petra, fem.) He would build His church. Because of this change in Greek words, many conservative scholars believe that Jesus is now building His church on Himself. Others hold that the church is built on Peter and the other apostles as the building’s foundation stones (Eph. 2:20; Rev. 21:14). Still other scholars say that the church is built on Peter’s testimony. It seems best to understand that Jesus was praising Peter for his accurate statement about Him, and was introducing His work of building the church on Himself (1 Cor. 3:11).

What I take from that is that Jesus is the rock. Not Peter, and not "the Church." But hey, maybe that writer has only intellect, but not knowledge?

Whatever the Apostles and their progeny handed down, it was hardly a consistent "rock." Again, see the list of heresies, previously cited.

Seeing Jesus as the rock, He (and His church) is present wherever two or more are gathered in his name. A structure of mortar and stone where fallibles and pretenders congregate -- not so much. How many times did Jesus preach inside a building? Were the people at the Sermon on the Mount not in Church?

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Our culture is not sacrificing children in the womb to Molech. Our culture is sacrificing such children to nothing more than gratificiation and convenience. This gives fleeting rewards to those who lust for gratification and convenience, but it leaves a void that is soon filled by those whose energies do not collapse in the face of inconvenience. The consequence is to set our culture up for catastrophe, to be replaced by others -- regardless of their adherence or lack of adherence to any of our founding values.

Our culture was based on government of, by, and for the people. Its high point was reached just before we began, in the names of phony "fairness" and "equality," to sacrifice our children, indeed, our families, to nothing more than convenience and central pagan diktat. The math of the blowback that will be derivative of our loss of purposeful faith cannot yield other than great bereavement and lamentation. Anyone of the least common sense can see it coming -- quickly and relentlessly. The math will re-balance, and the faithlessly irresolute will be submerged and replaced.

If and when we fall to godless people farmers, it will be because of two main factors: First, widespread loss of decent, humble faith before the Godhead. Second, failure to act to preclude transference of power from worship of the Godhead to worship of godless international lords of corporatist laundering, profiteering, and plundering. In confusing libertines with liberators, we have availed a worship of our destroyers.

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I am worried because of the condition of the electorate. Don't forget the election Nurse Ratchett called: https://youtu.be/OnouwR6N334

Eventually, Big Chief flew the coop. If Hillary is elected, I am of an age to just drop out, let Atlas shrug, and ride my Harley. I can't fix the mass epidemic of stupid that has been deliberately injected into our nation.

In make believe world, McMurphy resisted the regime of Nurse Ratchet. In the real world, Jack Nicholson is a strong supporter of Hillary.

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Hillary can swing every which way to Dance with the Pervs because she is known to be one of them.

Trump mainly just talks handsy. Biden is handsy. The diff: Biden (and Bill Clinton and JFK) are/were lovable because they are/were Progs. Hillary is given a pass because she is a Prog and a Bi. Being a Prog and/or a Bi is like wearing bloody dead meat among the zombies: It gives you a pass.

How can a straight man walk through the valley of Prog Zombies? Answer: Only so long as enough competent Americans remain. And that is what the open-borders crowd of uniparty-zombie lovers is trying to kill.

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It's almost as if it were "racist" to continue to complain about infidelities by "authentic black men" (like Bill Clinton or Robert De Niro? or the poor black boys in prison for nothing more than a little over-sexed exuberance?).

But if a Conservative, like Clarence Thomas or Herman Cain or Bill Cosby, says or does anything sexually racy or deviant, well, then it's time to get into high class dudgeon. See the diff?

Regarding immunity for Progs and SJW's, see a rationale at https://www.buzzfeed.com/anitabadejo/where-is-that-narrative?utm_term=.fkQz87MPw#.mwGx1ZMX9:

"[A] microcosm of the black community at large, within which respectability politics and expectations that black women stand in solidarity with black men in the quest for racial justice make the conversations surrounding gender and sexual violence particularly fraught. In the days BuzzFeed News spent in Atlanta, members of both communities expressed concern that this combination — of ineffective institutional processes and black cultural dynamics — has created a climate in which silence has become not only standard, but expected."

IOW, silence for Prog depravities, but not for Conservative depravities. Hillary can use the media to shout disapproval at Trump, without fear of proportionate coverage against her own depravities. "Good" Nurse Ratchet continues her "good work."

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If Trump is a goner, then so is the republic. Gird your loins and grab your Harleys.

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Now you think I'm going to waste more time trying to reason with an intellectual zombie? Be gone.

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Trump mainly just talks handsy. Biden is handsy. The diff: Biden (and Bill Clinton and JFK) are lovable because they are/were Progs. Hillary is given a pass because she is a Prog and a Bi. Being a Prog and/or a Bi is like wearing bloody dead meat among the zombies: It gives you a pass. How can a straight man walk through the valley of Prog Zombies? Answer: Only so long as enough competent Americans remain. And that is what the open-borders crowd of uniparty-zombie lovers is trying to kill.

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Corrupti have super noses for profit from corruption. They expect they will always be able to move on. Imagine George Soros moving along to find an opportunity to extract gold from the fillings of dead Jewish teeth.

The war to replace individual and competent masculinity with collectivized pajama-boy wussiness continues. How do you teach individual competence to an industrial grade wussie? You don't. It is NOT ALLOWED. Soon you won't even be allowed to talk about it. Metro-matriarchal hell. Nurse Ratchet has ruled. Hillary approves.

It's not the real women. It's the wussie women and their Nurse Ratchet's (or Ratched Wretcheds, i.e., Hillarites.)



You're trying to deal in facts. Thinkers appreciate it. But Dems (moral zombies) prefer their locoweed.

Per Dems, there were no commies in U.S. gov. There is no such a thing as a commie. To Progs, indeed, "globalism" does not mean anything. Progwussies deal only in emotion, pleasure, sex, drugs, free stuff, and safe spaces -- all repackaged in metrosexualized and professorial rationalization.

We're bringing reason to a zombie fight, but the zombie war will come all the same, on the heels of the zombie collapse.

Anonymous said...

Dems always move cattle-people on to the next pile of bs before any of them has time to appreciate the lack of nutrition in the last pile. When their opponents try to point out the lack of nutrition, they laugh at them for dwelling on "old news." What ails our republic is less in substance than in infestation. What we have is infestation with liberty-illiterate moral-zombies -- godless and godperverted. This won't be fixed with rational persuasion.

Given how Progs have flooded us with an electorate that is without a helm, rudder, or compass, it is obvious that secretive personas have been forming the public personas of our politicians. Hillary's private persona is tied directly to George Soros, whose dream of replacing the U.S. with a NWO open society is known to everyone with the least intellectual curiosity and a functioning brain.

Of course Hillary is secretly an open borders fanatic, and of course she publicly lies about it! Problem is, despite exposure, she also knows she and her supporters have created a Frankensteinian electorate of zombies that is so intellectually, metrosexually, and substantively clueless and divided as to be without any assimilated moral code or hope of finding one. Hillary expects, by getting out the zombie vote, that all she has to do is toss raw meat here and there on the way to the polls.

Once zombies have the vote, how do you wake them up? Well, you don't. The game was compromised when they were given the right to vote -- without need to show either that they had brain or identity as citizens.

Zombie farmers expect to use their crops of zombies to become people farmers. That's the NWO. It's NOT a world of free stuff and safe spaces with great sex and soma and compassionate people. Much more likely, it's prelude to nuclear holocaust and social collapse.

Hillary. Because (publicly) she cares. S/

They have to! It's all they've got. And Hillary knows most of the media will spin the balance her way. Since Progs feel, like cattle, and rarely think, this will be bad on balance for Trump.

He will somehow have to use it as permission to go after Hillary in the most direct and effective ways possible, to expose her as a conniving, cackling, people-farming gruberer.

We had 8 years of a white-hating Prez. Now the Establishment wants to give us years more of a man-hating Prez. They WANT to destroy and replace the republic. What could be more obvious?

Anonymous said...

Progs love Gay and polyamorous men. I wonder what they talk about in gaybars? Imagine if a Republican tried to disqualify a "Gay" for locker room talk.

Thomas Jefferson carried on a love affair with a married woman. Benjamin Franklin was a hound for women. Alexander Hamilton was a sex maniac. What do Prog women suppose straight men talk about? I guess my first night in a BOQ in Korea (where I had to share quarters with three other randy officers) would have traumatized them for life?

The hypocrisy in this is nutz. Progs want to teach school kids to reserve judgment about whether they may want to try out gay sex. Or what gender they are. Progs groom kids. They put every kind of absurdity and filth in front of them -- in movies, tv, social media, and "music." Then they want to get the vapors about an 11 year old recording of Trump?

What? ... Progs don't do locker room talk? Or take all their tax deductions? And now we have a video by De Niro denouncing Trump. Yup. The guy who was with John Belushi the night he fried his brains. Hollywood denouncing Trump. Now that's chutzpah! What is this crap?

Answer: This crap is what Hillary runs on because she has nothing else! What good accomplishment can she run on? Nothing. Zilch. Crapola.

We have real problems. Serious problems. We are watching our republic as it is being drowned. And every globalist that wants to drown the republic is for Hillary and against Trump. Now that should tell something to every person who has a functioning brain.

Well, that excludes Progs right there.

I suspect the gerrymandering solidifies especially well when combined with unenforced borders, welfare bribes for votes, rampant corruption, and lots of gov yobs. The things you get with an electorate that, apart from feeling good, has little clue what it is doing.

What about unenforced borders, big Ag, migrant workers bringing up their families, culture of hedonism, and laid back drug acceptance combined with gov making illegal drugs profitable? Whatever the cause of this plague, I doubt any State is long immune from it.

Matriarchal PC is nothing more than patriarchal political compulsion dressed in a pantsuit instead of in Nazi boots. It's just in time for wussified Christianity, transgenderism, sensitive pajama boys, and the war against boys.

PC has dated since before the first victim was executed for "heresy." I don't care when it started. I want its purveyors' pantsuits and nazi boots pulled down and off. (No doubt, if Nurse Ratchett comes on duty, this will be pulled.) Fundamentally, PC is corrosive to reason, good faith, and good will. It is as dishonest as Nurse Ratchett.

Anonymous said...

What to make of hu-man and man-age? Maybe convert to hu-orange and orange-age. A clockwork orangutan. Instead of Nadsat we can have Orangespeak.

Fascism pretending to have a caring face. We love Big Sis.

I'm a little surprised to see you at AT. I will probably leave it soon. It has become clear that it is as much infected by selective intrusions by Nurse Ratchett as any subpar blog.

Re: "[H]ow do you deal with zombies? You can't argue with them. You can't bargain with them. You just have to avoid them whenever possible, but if you do have to confront them, you have to go for the brain to take them out for good."

I agree almost entirely. Except you cannot fix or educate zombies who remain liberals after 40. By that time, the infection is irreversible.

The purpose of PC is to use femi-bots to impose an idea of "moral" collectivism, which amounts to little more than godless or godperverting people-farming by cackling despots. Leave it to people like Megyn Kelly to be concerned about Trump's temperament while being blind to Hillary's.

The world will not end in fire or ice. It will end in metrowussies gathered around the memory hole.

Hillary will be Nurse Ratchett and Agent Smith as President. Once she consolidates power, she will tell all the lies, half truths, and create all the strawmen she wants -- and there will be nothing you can do about it. https://youtu.be/rWBntJAvTmY If you think most blogs do not follow the Matrix school of education dressed up in matriarchy that pretends to care about temperament, then you are probably seriously deluded. Hillary -- caring, with good temperament? Lol.

Anonymous said...

I see Hillary as much more of a victimizer than a victim. Hillary has been damaged goods ever since she bought into Saul Alinsky and was thrown off the Watergate investigation. Between her and Bill, Bill is the softer clay. IAE, I don't see any point in blaming her genes, upbringing, or "marriage" in order to avoid blaming her.

And Hillary is wrong about America still being great already. The U.S., with her 25% of men being wussieboys, is far, far from still being "great already." If anything, given our up-to-the-gills in wussiness, America has become perhaps the biggest exponent of danger to the free-thinking world of responsible adults.

Nurse Hillary is a practioner of munchausen by proxy. She thinks she is America's mother, but she wants to make us sick so she can pretend to care about making us better. Hillary wants to keep her rainbow coalition poor, divided, and dependent, so she and her fellow traveling fraudsters can continue to fleece them while pretending to be helping them. In no event does she want any of her sheeple to grow up to become individually competent. She is a betrayer of humanity who avoids hating herself by hating and using everyone else. Munchausen by proxy. Very spiritually and mentally sick and inhuman. But she does it all "for the children." S/

After the election, Trump needs to instigate a MAGA Party. Those who remain affiliated with the GOPe can then be graded on an A to F scale in terms of their support (or lack of it) for making America great again.

And, no, Hillary, America, with her 25% of men being wussieboys, is far, far from still being "great already." If anything, given our up-to-the-gills in wussiness, America has become perhaps the biggest exponent of danger to the free-thinking world of responsible adults. Nurse Hillary is a practioner of munchausen by proxy. She thinks she is America's mother, but she wants to make us sick so she can pretend to care about making us better. She is one sicko mutha!

Re: "she had the audacity to say that we should be talking about foreign policy when it was her apparatchiks and media acolytes who purposely data dumped a private conversation just before this second debate"

Audacity is an insufficient descriptor. More like demented sociopathy. WWSD. What would Stalin do if he had not yet consolidated absolute power? Well, he might control the narrative. Gruber the narrative. Indeed, rape the narrative!

Anonymous said...

For every competent adult with a decent and defensible worldview, t for tat is almost always the best way to fight in a judged arena. Of course, pinkie-waggers will always counsel against that. But only against those they wag their pinkies against. They certainly didn't counsel Hillary to avoid using a crap fight to hide her lack of substance.

Regarding Truth: The Left is not about decency, equality, fairness, justice, or TRUTH. And it's not just about power. It's about sadists fulfilling their need to dominate masochists. Perverted sexuality. It's a uniparty of sadistic rulers and the masochistic ruled. Sadistic Lefties want to control those they dominate even to the point of making them confess that they like it! Cry uncle and let slip the dogs of sadism! (To appreciate the power Stockholm Syndrome has over usefully idiotic Leftists, just look at the power it has over Muslims.)

All that are subjugated will come to hate those that are not -- for being stronger, better, more independent, less wussified, more confident about their relationship with the Source. The subjugated want to make themselves "more equal" by helping their masters force every independent soul to bow to Pagan Gaia (or Moongod Allah) and its earthly rulers. That is the only way they can feel better about themselves, because they have no spirit or hope of becoming real adults.

For Lefties, Truth is nothing. The narrative is all. Create the narrative, control the narrative, and thus farm the people. Use the masochistic useful idiots to drive and stampede everyone else. Who can stand against such evil PC? Only a real and independent cowboy. Never a wussie.

When the U.S. becomes a land of regulated speech and serfs under global tyrants, they can ask themselves whether their sell out was worth it. All Hillary needs to do is put another creep on Scotus. Then, by turning Texas blue, the collapse will come very quickly. Just add some more liberty illiterates and then add some gerrymandering. There will be no coming back.

The Establishment of globalists would work as a gang to destroy any American who ran. The only non-globalist American in the race was Trump. Without Trump, there is no viable candidate to represent the republic over the globalistic people farmers. I will say that Pence may be an alternative, but only because Trump made him one. Name any other viable alternative whose private persona (not public persona) is likely oriented to the preservation of America, the Constitution, and the American Ideal of individual freedom of expression and enterprise. Who ya got?

Anonymous said...

Run a list of Hillary's depredations through your mind, along with a list of the ways she will sell the republic down the river. Then imagine if the media were watchdogs for the republic. I know, that's fantasy. But indulge me. Now, given the level of indoctrinated stupidity and complete lack among most people of any consistent and coherent worldview, ask yourself: Given such a media, would not nearly all people summon outrage against Hillary that would make her election impossible?

Now flip the question. Given the media and electorate we have, is it any surprise that the majority are about to commit the republic to the flames of Hillary, simply because the media has told them they should despise Trump? The only surprise is that Trump has scared the corrupt hierarchy of people farming globalists for as long as he has.

Our main problem is not the existence of tyrannical sociopaths in the world. Our main problem is the cyclical oversupplying of nutcase femimen and feminazis in the world that are so easily manipulated to vote for tyrants. Our existential problem is that we now have an electorate that was twice willing to elect an anti-American incompetent brainwashed socialistic puppet for people farmers -- for little reason more than that he was a near perfect "rainbow." Black, Muslim background, commie brewed, strange mother, gay aura, femi mannerisms, anti-American, chooming, lawless one-worlder. For that, many limp wristed citizens swooned.

The time is not far off when most Americans will refuse to fight abroad for the wussified citizenry that now controls this country. They may fight for a new nation carved out of this pinkie wagging travesty, but not for the whole enchilada. It is simply too far gone. Let the pinkie waggers defend themselves against the Muslim primitives they keep wanting to import.

Anonymous said...

Our republic is devolving to a lowest common denominator of filth and depravity because too many among us have forsaken any better system of value assimilation to guide us or to hold us together. I think this is why polls flux so much from day to day and so dependently on how questions are phrased and by whom. Unfortunately, this also probably makes large portions of the electorate easily manipulable by elitists seeking to become rulers. This gives a big advantage to filthy cronies that control the institutions of persuasion. Perhaps a bigger advantage than ever before. An advantage against which we will remain powerless so long as we forsake faith.

Even if Trump were to be elected, and even if he and Mike Pence were all that we hope, a continuing miracle would still be needed to establish and preserve a decent line of succession after them. Which brings us back to the issues of faith, family, and fidelity that are so important if we are to retain hope of avoiding the NWO gulag! Issues that have been dirtied by the one-worlder Bushes, Clintons, and Obama.

Prog-infant-brains imagine Hillary would be a kinder and gentler tyrant. But there is no such a thing in all of history. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. And that is what the NWO wants to have over the masses, worldwide. At that point, there will be no honest debating against their programs. As soon as the NWO regime sees that it is being resisted notwithstanding its cheap bribes, it will quickly resort to whatever level of force is necessary! This is an absolute certainty! There is nothing "kinder or gentler" about a tyrant in a pantsuit.

Suppose Hillary were to die in office. What would Tim Kaine do? Well, he would immediately be bewildered. And then he would do whatever his puppetmasters told him to do. In prison, some men "service" the gangleaders that protect them from others. That's precisely what Tim Kaine would do. If Hillary does not die in office, that's precisely what she is already well practiced to do. That's why she is such a cynical pos.

Why are the gangbanging globalists lined up against Trump? Answer: Because they cannot force him to "service" them. He is not on his knees, whereas Hillary has always been quick to calculate who she should go on her knees for. And who she should force on their knees.